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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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I have a 99' accord v6 (automatic) and I put a new short ram air intake in. Everything was fine for about 2 months and now when i take off at the line my rpm shoots up faster then normal and i notice a slight delay in the shifting. I took it to Honda to get the transmission checked and they charged me 170 bucks to get it flushed 3 times for no reason cause it's still acting up. Does anyone know whats going on or have had a similar problem? Thanks.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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Default Re: help: high rpm when upshifting? (JACCV6)

btw, my friend's acura cl was doing the same thing... the service center flushed the tranny, and everything seems fine now... different tranny, but same idea...

have you told the dealership that it's still acting up? from what i understand, honda tells their service center to follow certain procedures when it comes to shifting problems in the automatics... the first one being to flush the fluid in the tranny. then they tell you to take the car home, and drive it around for a couple days. if the problem persists, bring it back to them and let them know. i know that the service center where i live would refund/credit back the money you spent on the flush, but i'm not sure if others are the same way.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JACCV6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 99' accord v6 (automatic) and I put a new short ram air intake in. Everything was fine for about 2 months and now when i take off at the line my rpm shoots up faster then normal and i notice a slight delay in the shifting. I took it to Honda to get the transmission checked and they charged me 170 bucks to get it flushed 3 times for no reason cause it's still acting up. Does anyone know whats going on or have had a similar problem? Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is from Honda Service News dated April 2002:

A/T Shift Problems:
Slippage, Flare, Hard Upshift

NOTE: This article applies to A/T-equipped ’98–02 Accords, ’01–02 Civics, ’98–02 Odysseys, and ’97–01 Preludes. If your customer complains of slippage, flare, or hard upshifting, the problem may be a faulty A/T clutch pressure control solenoid A/B assembly. These solenoids control fluid pressure to the clutches for smooth shifting.

To fix this problem, first make sure the ATF is clean and at the proper level. Refill with Honda ATF-Z1 as needed. Then install a known-good solenoid assembly, and test-drive the vehicle. If shifting gets better, order a new solenoid assembly. If there’s no improvement, continue with normal troubleshooting.


Hope this might help you out.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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does that apply to 5th gen accords? mine does the same thing, particularly when the engine and tranny are still warming up.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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This all I can find on the 96 Accord:


Minor RPM Flare Is Normal for Some A/Ts

If customers complain of A/T slippage when they accelerate after a right turn or after they accelerate from a near stop, it could be due to a condition we call “imitation flare.” The flare occurs when the trans wants to downshift after a long deceleration. Then, for a split-second when the throttle opens and the next gear hasn’t been selected yet, the rpm flares. Vehicles with this condition can include ’90-97 Accords, ’90-95 Civics, ’92-97 Preludes, and ’95-97 Odesseys. The flare isn’t transmission slippage; it’s a result of the logic built into the A/T control unit. Don’t replace the trans in an attempt to change it. If you suspect the car has a misadjusted throttle cable, you may be able to reduce the flare by adjusting the throttle cable while monitoring A/T throttle pressure B (on Civics, watch throttle pressure A and B).
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