I had 4 new tires installed on my car yesterday, and the mechanic noticed that the metal plate that goes behind the brake pads were not installed properly and have moved to a point where they have been carving a line in my rotors. The mechanic removed that metal plate which came with the Hawk HPS brake pads. Those Hawk HPS brake pads were installed when I got my ITR 5 lug conversion installed back in April (and have been used for 3000 miles). The rotors are Brembo Blanks that were on the ITR brakes when I bought them. The line that the metal plate made on the rotor is about 1/8 inch deep as shown in the picture below:



The mechanic said that I may want to replace the rotors just to be safe. Do you guys think that the rotors need to be replaced? If they should be replaced, what could happen if I don't replace them?

 

Hell rotors are cheaper than pads, replace 'em.

 

Does your steering wheel vibrate under normal driving and braking conditions?

 

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No

 

ditto

 

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Bingo.

 

you people are all a bunch of pansies. run that **** into the ground.

 

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bing0

 

1/8" ?

don't worry about it

 

only 3K miles since April?? gaw

&lt;-- had new ES100's installed in April and have 15K on them now.

 

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Started a brake job on the Scout (rotors = $90 each ) before realizing you had to take the locking hubs completely apart to get the rotors off. Threw in one new pad (grooved backing plate to match grooved rotor) and called it a fuggin' day. Grooves are 1/4" or better deep

 

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Yep. Lived in an apartment by school and only drove it during the weekends. Most of those miles were put on in the summer. I've had my car since Dec. '96 when I turned 16 and it only has 43,500 miles on it.

 

Only problem I see is the lack of miles on your car. Drive that ish

 

That sucks.

But rotors for an Integra are ~$25 each and can be changed by anyone capable of using an impact wrench in 15 minutes.

 

Is the groove into the rotor or the "hat" part? If its in the braking surface then no worries, if its into the hat, keep an eye on them. That part is not so thick to begin with. Watch for cracks.

 

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It is on the "hat" part. The white arrow is pointed to the line in the pic below:



The line is about 1/8 inch deep. How thick is the "hat" part?

 

do you even need thoughs plates? i dont have thoughs plate on my front pads. they squeel like a bitch but brakes good.

 

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yeah for your safety too u should replace them

 

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Unless the rotors are glazed

 

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The mechanic told me that those plates behind the brake pads are there to keep the brakes from squealing. Do all brake pads come with those plates or do only some come with them?

 

That's what happened to mine.

/edit: didn't read the part where you were running HPS's also. I guess this is a common occurance with these pads.

Ed

 

the rotors need to be replaced with some nice slotted ones

 

Happened to my Hawk Pads as well. Call Hawk, get a new free set of pads. Thaty's what they did for me.

 

step 1 - go to autozone
step 2 - buy brand new legend SE rotors for $25 each
step 3 - replace your damaged stock ones
step 4 - go out and drink some because your so smart

 

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Thanks for letting me know. I just did that and they are going to send me a free replacement.

I have a couple more questions.

1. Does the backing plate coming off have something to do with faulty installation or product defect? If I remember correctly, the backing plate came attached to the pad.

2. Does this only happen to Hawk HPS brake pads or does it happen to other ones as well?