Mugen Micro Mesh Brake lines....
I was curious, are the Mugen Mirco Mesh Brake lines any better then SS brake lines?
"Mugen’s Micro Mesh brake line uses braided wire of approximately 0.21 mm formed by braiding seven ultra-fine strands in place of the stainless steel wire (approx. 0.3 mm per strand) used in conventional stainless-steel-braid reinforced hoses. This greatly increases flexibility and dramatically improves fatigue durability, which is a shortcoming with conventional hoses. The Teflon material used for the inner tubing has also been improved to provide increased tube durability. As a result, this is the first stainless-steel-braid reinforced hose to acquire FMVSS (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) No. 106 certification. Mugen Micro Mesh brake lines surpass the standards for compliant brake hoses, and ensure safety and a degree of direct pedal responsiveness that cannot be achieved with rubber brake hoses. The products are sold as a four-piece set for one vehicle. They are critical safety components complying with safety standards, and must be installed by an authorized dealer."
That is what Kingmotorsports.com has for their description...
I understand that my ITR's brakes system is very good from the factory, but i think i would like less flex in my brake lines. So is it worth it to step up and get the Mugen mesh ones or just get a good set of SS lines?
I hit the corners pretty hard around here and may do some track racing(as in road racing)...so are they worth it?
Thanks for the help guys!
"Mugen’s Micro Mesh brake line uses braided wire of approximately 0.21 mm formed by braiding seven ultra-fine strands in place of the stainless steel wire (approx. 0.3 mm per strand) used in conventional stainless-steel-braid reinforced hoses. This greatly increases flexibility and dramatically improves fatigue durability, which is a shortcoming with conventional hoses. The Teflon material used for the inner tubing has also been improved to provide increased tube durability. As a result, this is the first stainless-steel-braid reinforced hose to acquire FMVSS (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) No. 106 certification. Mugen Micro Mesh brake lines surpass the standards for compliant brake hoses, and ensure safety and a degree of direct pedal responsiveness that cannot be achieved with rubber brake hoses. The products are sold as a four-piece set for one vehicle. They are critical safety components complying with safety standards, and must be installed by an authorized dealer."
That is what Kingmotorsports.com has for their description...
I understand that my ITR's brakes system is very good from the factory, but i think i would like less flex in my brake lines. So is it worth it to step up and get the Mugen mesh ones or just get a good set of SS lines?
I hit the corners pretty hard around here and may do some track racing(as in road racing)...so are they worth it?
Thanks for the help guys!
Wow, these sound like a huge load of bullshit! No problems with my Wilwood braided lines so far, and they come from a racing background of a MUCH broader spectrum than Mugen could ever dream.
If you could justify spending $8,000 on these Mugen lines or whatever they cost, go for it. I would think that a set of Neuspeed or Goodridge lines are more than adequete for a Honda...
Bottom line: Another Mugen product that is the same as the competition, only with a 500% markup.
If you could justify spending $8,000 on these Mugen lines or whatever they cost, go for it. I would think that a set of Neuspeed or Goodridge lines are more than adequete for a Honda...
Bottom line: Another Mugen product that is the same as the competition, only with a 500% markup.
If Mugen were really smart, they'd have more than one distributor in the US, so that they could offer competetive prices unlike King's jacked-up prices. As Wal-Mart exemplifies, there's much more profit in large volume.
don't bother.
and while you're at it...I would avoid SS lines altogether. Most of them aren't DOT approved. Many of the NSX guys in particular have seen them break. The only ones I'd consider putting on my car are the Neuspeeds, because they seal the mesh. All other designs are more prone to having dirt get in there and wear the line down.
if you do get them, be sure to replace them once a year. I would greatly consider going with better pads first...they'll give you more g's when you slow down
and while you're at it...I would avoid SS lines altogether. Most of them aren't DOT approved. Many of the NSX guys in particular have seen them break. The only ones I'd consider putting on my car are the Neuspeeds, because they seal the mesh. All other designs are more prone to having dirt get in there and wear the line down.
if you do get them, be sure to replace them once a year. I would greatly consider going with better pads first...they'll give you more g's when you slow down
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tweakmeister »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't bother.
and while you're at it...I would avoid SS lines altogether. Most of them aren't DOT approved. Many of the NSX guys in particular have seen them break. The only ones I'd consider putting on my car are the Neuspeeds, because they seal the mesh. All other designs are more prone to having dirt get in there and wear the line down.
if you do get them, be sure to replace them once a year. I would greatly consider going with better pads first...they'll give you more g's when you slow down
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i thought some companies used a teflon sleeve over the whole line...
and while you're at it...I would avoid SS lines altogether. Most of them aren't DOT approved. Many of the NSX guys in particular have seen them break. The only ones I'd consider putting on my car are the Neuspeeds, because they seal the mesh. All other designs are more prone to having dirt get in there and wear the line down.
if you do get them, be sure to replace them once a year. I would greatly consider going with better pads first...they'll give you more g's when you slow down
</TD></TR></TABLE>i thought some companies used a teflon sleeve over the whole line...
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i thought some companies used a teflon sleeve over the whole line...</TD></TR></TABLE>
over or under? most use telfon under the SS mesh. which is fine until the two start rubbing...
i thought some companies used a teflon sleeve over the whole line...</TD></TR></TABLE>
over or under? most use telfon under the SS mesh. which is fine until the two start rubbing...
i was under the impression that some companies coated the outside of the line with teflon or plastic to prevent dirt from working its way in there. maybe i'm wrong?
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So what if the SS lines are DOT aproved? Like comtech or Brembo...will they add improvement and will they last a long time?
Before i buy pads or lines, i will be buying better brake fliud...
Before i buy pads or lines, i will be buying better brake fliud...
if it's not DOT approved it hasn't passed the simplest of tests.
I believe Goodridge lines have...but if you read the fine print they still suggest replacing once a year.
as I said...if you really want them, go for a coated kind...like the Neuspeeds. For the money you better have better fluid and pads first though.
I believe Goodridge lines have...but if you read the fine print they still suggest replacing once a year.
as I said...if you really want them, go for a coated kind...like the Neuspeeds. For the money you better have better fluid and pads first though.
Techna Fit SS Brake lines are D.O.T. approved. They all pass the "whip" test, as well. Very fair pricing, too. They also make custom line kits, e.g., 96 Civic DX with GSR rear disc conversions. The turn around time is 24-48 hours, and there is no increase in price, either. If you call, you'll probably talk to Stuart Trotter. He's the man.
http://www.techna-fit.com/dot.html
310-530-1476
http://www.techna-fit.com/dot.html
310-530-1476
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