if you have 2200, what would you do? considering you already have i/e/h?
i am thinking about ls/vtec. however, i am also considering just rebuilding the whole ls engine. if i put crower cam, aem cam gear, aftermarket piston, valve retainer and spring, with hondata tuned, how much hp would i be getting oh the wheel?

the only con i have for ls/vtec is it's not so reliable if not built right.

thanks in advance.

sorry for a long a$$ explanation.

 

Allmotor LS wont make much power at all. LSVTEC is more work than its worth, IMO. I would go turbo.
gmoore

 

even if built right ls/vtec will still have reliability issues. boost is your best option, the benefit of all motor is that you can slowly piece your car together. there isnt that huge initial cost of a turbo and all of the parts that keep it working. in the end you will spend a lot more money all motor for less power then a turbo.

 

Boost

an LS/VTEC will cost a lot more than 2200

 

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thats doesnt make sense. you really think that boost is reliable? you really think that no matter what an ls vtec isnt? where do you guys get this stuff?

 

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thats doesnt make sense. you really think that boost is reliable? you really think that no matter what an ls vtec isnt? where do you guys get this stuff?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i thought the exact same thing.

"dont put a vtec head on your ls, itll break down real soon. bump boost into it and itll run just fine for ever and ever."

 

i think u should start to build the motor fo boost

 

why isn't boost an option??? boost it

 

id run 20psi on stock b18 b4 id **** with ls/vtech...

(and YES for you tardfarms out there i am being sarcastic)

 

between the two choices, ls-vtec without a doubt.

 

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(and YES for you tardfarms out there i am being sarcastic)</TD></TR></TABLE>

We're the tards and you are still working on clarifying engines and phones, hmm, ok.

Either way can be reliable or not. Its all in the quality of the parts, and the quality of the installation. So with that in mind, I would rather have the turbo, you can call up Greddy and have everything you need shipped to your door, where as with LSVTEC you will need to peice together your own parts. Plus, turbo will leave you with a much higher "ceiling" of power, IE, when you slap on a turbo, you can leave it at that, or build the bottom, crank the boost, and make much more power. With the LSVTEC, you do it, and your done, maybe some cams but other than that you cant get much more power out of it.
gmoore

 

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We're the tards and you are still working on clarifying engines and phones, hmm, ok.

Either way can be reliable or not. Its all in the quality of the parts, and the quality of the installation. So with that in mind, I would rather have the turbo, you can call up Greddy and have everything you need shipped to your door, where as with LSVTEC you will need to peice together your own parts. Plus, turbo will leave you with a much higher "ceiling" of power, IE, when you slap on a turbo, you can leave it at that, or build the bottom, crank the boost, and make much more power. With the LSVTEC, you do it, and your done, maybe some cams but other than that you cant get much more power out of it.
gmoore</TD></TR></TABLE>

knew the phone was going to brought up .

id have to agree with everything you say. btw, theres a nice quick spool turbo kit on sale in the sponsors marketplace.

 

i changed my mind about ls/vtec after reading this post.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=501372

so i boosted mine instead

 

wow, what is with all the threads about ls vtecs and boost?
between ls vtec and an all motor ls, definitely go with ls vtec. an all motor ls will not be very streetable (higher compression, lose a comfortable idle with longer lift/duration cams) if you really want it to be fast.
and for the record, an ls vtec does not even have to be "built" to be reliable. its merely the quality of the work and the way you drive it. specifically, you can not rev beyond the stock ls redline without upgraded rods and arp bolts. THATS where people usually screw them up. my engine consists of a stock ls bottom end, a stock gsr top end, and a gsr water pump. until i have a chance to install my eagle rods and buy a vtec oil pump, my redline is parked at 7000.

 

screw Ls/Vtec....BOOST THAT BIATCH

 

Boost it... Wanna have a quick all motor Integra or a fast street car with tons more potential?

 

x20 turbo!

 

if your going to do one of your two options, then i would go ls/vtec, just make sure you build it right.
otherwise, i would turbo like some have previously stated.

 

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Yeah...rebuild your motor a bit first, then add the boost. Stock parts weren't made to handle turbo...

 

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thats doesnt make sense. you really think that boost is reliable? you really think that no matter what an ls vtec isnt? where do you guys get this stuff?</TD></TR></TABLE>

for that money he will probably be running low boost, which imo will perform better then most ls/vtecs and be more reliable. as far as why i think ls/vs arent reliable, is because mine is a constant headache.
it definitly was not worth the extra 25lb/ft of torque if that. granted i did not start out with an ls (bought gsr with a bad block) the point that i am trying to get across is that there are way more variables with an ls/vtec, then with a turbo. all of those variables degrade reliability and increase the expense.

 

i bought my 95 integra for 2200, haha

 

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Yeah...rebuild your motor a bit first, then add the boost. Stock parts weren't made to handle turbo...</TD></TR></TABLE>

They weren't made to handle boost, but they sure can with proper tuning... My bone stock B18B has been boosted for nearly a year without a single issue.

 

Boost that son of a bitch, I would rather boost then LS/VTEC , you can make more power easier with Turbo ls then LS/VTEC and if you dont build LS/VTEC right its gonna break down on you and i know that turbo isnt that reliable either if you dont do internal work. Boost

 

boost dat ****. I got a drop shop turbo mani for t3 w/o wastegate flange for sale if you're interested. Lookin for 215 plus shipping

 

if i do boost, what kinda turbo kits do you suggest for daily driving?? thinking about putting 6 to 7 psi. kinda beginer, so don't need a huge turbo for now.