i wanna know whats the actual setup everyone here has on OBDO cars...
no matter if its a B series or a D series....
i wanna know what kind of engine and fuel management u guys using, what injectors,how much boost, waht ecu , what ignition, how well it behaves, etc etc etc,
OBD1 and 2 have more options... but what about OBDO..
i am searchin but the posts are ridiculous....

hope this thread will put togheter some info for us to use in the future to considerate when building our own turbos,,,
i got myself a IHI turbo and want to know what should i do , and what i shouldnt..

thanxs

 

engine
-D16A6 (non-vtec)
fuel management
-VAFC (incase I want VTEC)
injectors
-DSM 450s, blue tops
boost
-8psi
ecu
-PM6
ignition
-stock
behavior
-runs better through boost than a DSM
manifold
-cutom, compressor on passenger side
DP
-custom, 2" turbine outlet, 2" wastegate dump (currently near x-member, being moved to out driverside bumper)
turbo
-greddy T25
intercooler
-setup for side mount, FMIC in works (see pics for layout)
internals
-headstuds, D16Z6 metal gasket (with liberal copper spray)

Working on a starion w/ custom endtanks for bling factor, still decideng on layout:



-Dustin

 

Well Me,

SIR II Xsi Motor with YS1 tranny Stock Everything.
PR3 ECU OBD1.

Did 144HP on Dyno Jet no tuning Possible 150HP with VAFC Tuning.
Does great gas mileage on the Road. About 4.7 Gallon about 150 Miles hitting vtec may times. used on freeway about 50 miles kiills gas mileage.

 

i'd like to know some peoples times, if you could please list it with your setup.. i want to turbo my a6, but after seeing another turbo'd hatch tonight at the track only running 16s on stock motor, i'm not entirly sure i want to go that route anymore.

 

1991 Civic Si
XSI B16a, 90-91 LS tranny, 15 PSI (232/180 at the wheels, very sickly turbo )

Ran with this setup:
Z-Dyne Gold Programmable SECU 550cc Venom Eclipse GS-T injectors
FMax manifold, T3/T4 Garrett turbo, 46 trim, 50a/r compressor with a .48 exhaust side. (SMALL t3/t4)
Custom downpipe that was probably about 2" tubing off the turbo. (SUCKED!)
Turbonetics Deltagate dumped directly into tiny downpipe. (BAD for flow)
3" downpipe-back Thermal R&D exhaust. (Sounds friggin awesome with turbo)
ITR cams (untuned)
ITR intake manifold
64mm JG throttlebody
Spearco Water/air intercooler

185/65/14 "Premium Performance" **** tires on 96 LX steelies. (NO traction) 13.8@102 and the turbo died at the top of third, about 1000' out.

She had A LOT more in her, for sure.

Since then, I've ditched/upgraded a slew of parts.

JimFab bars, 205/50/15 Drag Radials, Precision SC34 turbo, InLinePro manifold, Tial 35mm wastegate run open dump, 3" downpipe, Tokico front shocks, HaSport Race eurethan rear motor mount.

Hoping for 12's on street tires, 11's on slicks.

 

I'm on the ghetto/cheapie side of the page.

1991 CRX Si

Jackson Supercharger.

9 Lbs Boost.

Stock 'PM6 ECU

Stock CRX Si Injectors

K&N Drop-in Air Filter

Kami Header - Stock Cat/Mid Pipe - Dynomax Muffler

Ignition retarded about 6 degrees.

NGK 7 Series plugs

Rising-Rate Fuel Regulator

Boost Timing Control taking out just over 1 degree per Lb.

MSD RPM Switch for VTEC control set @ 4300, I want to try out lowering it some.


No track times.

Never on a Dyno, but I'd love to find out the actuall #s. (No mods, just find out what it's got)

I am definately not getting the most out of this setup, but it's dependable, and pretty damn strong, as shown in the sig below.

(Installed the Y8 because of the low mileage/VERY low price, my old A6 w/278,000 miles on it is sitting in the garage in excellent shape, ready to be reinstalled at any time)


I would love a Zdyne though. (Have DSM 450s sitting in the toolbox waiting for the day I spend the $$$$)

If you are going to boost your car getto style like me, remove some timing and add lots of fuel at first, then make small adjustments untill you find the threshold, then add a little safety margin.

 

I too did a complete custom setup. (a.k.a. Ghetto)

- D16A6
- 450cc DSM blue top injectors
- Ghettodyne'd PM6 ECU. (creating my own boost routines is in the works)
- HF manifold with adaptor plate
- Mitsubishi Te04 turbo (from daytona/lancer/any dodge 2.5L turbo 89-94)
-Custom 2.5 Mandrel downpipe
- Talon G2 BOV (surprisingly loud for a Bosch plastic valve)
- 10 PSI

Getting about 170 whp. Best E.T. so far was a 14.7 @ 98 MPH. Fell asleep at the light... 1.200 reaction. It'll hit 2.0, and 1.95 60 ft's on slicks though.

Hope that helps.

 

ls/vtec b18a block,b16a2 head
msd rpm swicth @ 5,200 rpm
pm6 ecu stock rev. limit
gsr cams
t3/to4e 57 trim .63ar
starion intercooler
tial 35mm
6 puch act hd plate
rc 440 and safc
went 12.6 on slicks on 257 hp
now have been tuned and made 290 hp and 234 tq at 10 pnd,best so far 13.1 on street tires,no runs on slicks yet,should be a low 12

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls/vtec b18a block,b16a2 head
msd rpm swicth @ 5,200 rpm
pm6 ecu stock rev. limit
gsr cams
t3/to4e 57 trim .63ar
starion intercooler
tial 35mm
6 puch act hd plate
rc 440 and safc
went 12.6 on slicks on 257 hp
now have been tuned and made 290 hp and 234 tq at 10 pnd,best so far 13.1 on street tires,no runs on slicks yet,should be a low 12</TD></TR></TABLE>

you ran a 12.6 on that setup with a STOCK single cam pm6?

 

yes sir,and always will,i did use a pg7 and made more power but was acting funny

 

engine
d16z6
fuel management
zdyne gold secu
injectors
RC 440s
boost
9.5
ecu
Zdyne gold secu
ignition
zdyne .5 retard for each psi
behavior
turbo is ****. its touching down and the fins are gone. it makes 4 psi and spools by about 5000 rpm
manifold
greddy
DP
greddy (soon to be 2.5)
turbo
15g greddy (soon to be 14b)
intercooler
greddy fmic
internals
none

have to get the setup workin right but thats what it is for now. the zdyne is great.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1991 Civic Si
XSI B16a, 90-91 LS tranny, 15 PSI (232/180 at the wheels, very sickly turbo )

JimFab bars, 205/50/15 Drag Radials, Precision SC34 turbo, InLinePro manifold, Tial 35mm wastegate run open dump, 3" downpipe, Tokico front shocks, HaSport Race eurethan rear motor mount.

Hoping for 12's on street tires, 11's on slicks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget those 900cc injectors....

I'm running a turbo B18A in a CRX. Built w/ a DRAG III kit, and using Zdyne for tuning. The boost is set to a comfortable 5~6psi for piddling around, and 20psi for those pesky motorcycles that won't die.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speed PHreak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...the boost is set to a comfortable 5~6psi for piddling around, and 20psi for those pesky motorcycles that won't die.</TD></TR></TABLE>

!#!@

what kind of power do you think you're putting down @ 20psi?

 

b]engine[/b]
B16
fuel management
zdyne gold secu
injectors
RC 550s
boost
15lbs
ecu
Zdyne gold secu

behavior
Runs like a champ. Can't complain too much except for the fact i want more
manifold
Drag
DP
Custom 3" Dump
turbo
T3/4
intercooler
Spearco core, custom endtanks
internals
SRP 9:1 Pistons, Eagle Rods, GE Blockgaurd

Putting down ~370hp to the wheels. I didnt tune the car, so i cant comment on how easy/hard it was, but it's been running great and havnt had any problems with it so far.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of power do you think you're putting down @ 20psi?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dunno, what ever the turbo is capable at that amount of boost. Prolly in the neighborhood of 375whp.

 

Im in the process of building my homemade turbo setup:

D16Y8 block
SOHC ZC internals
D16Z6 head
D16Y8 intake manifold
HF mani
IHI RHB5 turbo
2.5" exhaust
SR20DET BOV
1g DSM 450cc injectors
TurboEdit chipped ecu (www.driftkids.com)
B&M adjustable FPR
DSM SMIC
Field SFC-VTEC
ball and spring MBC


I just got the block totally rebuilt, new rings and bearings and the head redone also.
I hope to boost 7-10psi

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speed PHreak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Don't forget those 900cc injectors....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn, I forgot that I had those, my car's been down so long... I gotta get it runnign on the 550's again first...Then IF/WHEN I need the 900cc monsters, I'll throw em in.

How's you car doing, Steven?

 

DOHC ZC

Greddy Turbo kit "92-95 Civic kit", Zdyne Gold SECU, DSM 450cc injectors, 7 pounds, DSM SMIC

I hate the DSM injectors, the car has problems starting when engine is warm. And the car stinks of gas now "probabaly from injectors"

 

Mine is none too impressive.

*DOHC ZC
*Greddy SOHC Trubo Kit.
*Hacked up mandrel bend charge pipes.
*Conquest Intercooler with pipes moved to the ends.
*Vortech 12:1:1 FMU
*Walbro 255 pump
*Boost Valve Controller
*Stock injectors

I'm running around 7-8psi.

The car has not be tuned at all because there is really not much to tune right now.

I would guess its making around 165hp, but I really have no idea.

My best mph so far has been 100mph, best 1/4mile was 14.0. The car spins and hops very badly. There is no doubt that it would run 13s if I could get it off the line. Most of my 60fts are around 2.3-2.4s.

 

b18a, 15g, afc, 450s, 10psi, 8.3@82 1/8th

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Damn, I forgot that I had those, my car's been down so long... I gotta get it runnign on the 550's again first...Then IF/WHEN I need the 900cc monsters, I'll throw em in.

How's you car doing, Steven?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Runnin real well. Why don't you hit me up on AIM you cracker, you haven't been onin forever.

 

Thanks for the layout Dustin


engine
-B16a (vtec)
fuel management
-VAFC
injectors
-DSM 450s, blue tops, walbro 255lph fuel pump
boost
-9psi
ecu
-PR3
ignition
-stock, going MSD external coil
behavior
-Partial throttle bucks a little bit, switching to standalone
manifold
-Homemade log manifold, soon to be for sale, going external wastegate
DP
-custom, 2.5" all the way
turbo
-T3 .60 / .63 60trim
intercooler
-29"x6"x2" Huge Front Mount from Tyrus http://www.johnnyracecar.com
-ARP headstuds, metal gasket (with liberal copper spray)