hey every! i seriously need help, i have a 97 lude and recently installed a drag gen3 turbo kit. i only had the kit in my car for a week and took it out coz i had to go get my smog. now before i put it back on, i called this shop and asked what i need to do to bulletproof my engine. they gave me a quote of $2900.00 for all the work in my car which will include labor and all the necessary parts which include the following: je pistons 10:5 compression(is this a good number to boost upto 10-15lbs?), eagle rods, will be resleeved by rs motorworks which they said will be able to handle up to 40lbs of boost, and some other stuff...they said alot of other stuff they will do to the car which i cant remember....please anyone out there i really need help....! please any advise.....is this a good price? and is it worth getting for $2900.00? almost everything internal will be modified and im just wondering if this is really how much work like this would cost.......?any suggestions please anyone...! im new on things like this and i really love my lude and just wanna be able to boost safely at 10-15 lbs....! please help me out......! thanks in advance to anyone that will reply........! again pls help me out...THANKS....!

 

I would go with lower compression pistons...like 9:1

Sleeving/deck/bore from golden eagle is $850 plus shipping for reference.

 

thanks.....! but do they have to do so much work in the engine just to boost high....im not building my car to go to the track and race it up i just wanna be able to boost safely at 10-15 lbs and add a few more hp to the car with peace of mind that my engine wont blow....do i really need all that work? or just changing the pistons and resleeving the block would do? if so how safe would it be specially im going to be driving my car daily and only plan to boost 5-7 and only raise up the boost whenever i need to? pls need more info.....thank u? sorry guys to many questions.....ya'll can see up top "newb97lude" my name says it all....pls help.....wanna learn more....thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newb97lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks.....! but do they have to do so much work in the engine just to boost high....im not building my car to go to the track and race it up i just wanna be able to boost safely at 10-15 lbs and add a few more hp to the car with peace of mind that my engine wont blow....do i really need all that work? or just changing the pistons and resleeving the block would do? if so how safe would it be specially im going to be driving my car daily and only plan to boost 5-7 and only raise up the boost whenever i need to? pls need more info.....thank u? sorry guys to many questions.....ya'll can see up top "newb97lude" my name says it all....pls help.....wanna learn more....thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

to boost 10-15 pounds unless you have horseshoes up your ***, you have to sleeve. What other work are you talking about?

sleeving say $850
pistons say $500
Rods say $500
oem bearings rebuild stuff another 2-300
labour ????

Doesn't sound like a terrible price. What else are they including.

Plus you need some excellent fuel management. Anyone running 7psi on a stock block without a full standalone I feel sorry for them.

 

what standalone would u guys recommend for a boosted 97 SH? and also what kind of fuel management would i need as in from pump to injectores etc. all of the fuel ***** the rails and all. looking for 400whp range so what kind of fuel setup woudl i need for the power that ima be pushing out?

 

i paid 4,600 to biuld my H. i also had head work done though, there is no other
to do the block but sleve it, 2,900 is a good price i guess

 

what did u do to ur H and what kind of head work?

 

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aries pistons, crower rods,darton sleeves(87mm over),apr studs, hot tanked
5 angle valve job, titan valves,springs retainers ect.. stock cams, thats about it.

 

4,600 for all that including labor? what kind of turbo kit do you have and how many lbs you pushing out?

 

no,that was the price of me dropping off the motor, not with the car,
oh and dyno time was included, and it's a drag turbo set up and it will be at
14 psi .

 

running safely at 14 psi? let me konw how it turns out cuz i want to go custom but i would like to do konw the Drag did on the lude. 1/4 times? dyno numbers?

 

if all that is to boost 14lbs, then what else is lseft to do to boost around 20?

 

well. next week i start the break in. so i wont have numbers for a while..
the place who did the motor, was the guy who has that 700+ h22 blue eg civic.
i think his name is KC or somthing,and the place who is doing all the tunning is called Auto Wave.. they are in orange county..
14psi is safely boosted, although i could boost more i would halft to run 100+ octaine. and i dont want the hassel of filling up with race gas.. so they are going to
run 91 octane on the tunning. also the turbo kit is is not a full drag kit it's just drag pipeing and inter cooler, the rest is custom.

 

that's so hot **** max (JDM DC2 ), what kind of Intake Manifold is that?

 

venom

 

**** yea lol, its custom good i HOPE you can give me some hardcore advice on it? cuz i have a 97 SH and i wnat to go custom turbo kit but not sure on exatcly what i need and pipping and evrything else. is urs an H22a? and if so can you tell me what u have done to make it custom and complete? i have a thread up asking about it so pleaseeeeeeeee can you give me advice and all. like pipping, sizes brands on parts all of the info. thanks a lot!

 

by the way your car looks ******* hard, and is the car or ur car actually atleast aroudn the 12 sec range off 14lbs?

 

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OK well first be prepaird to sepend around 10,000$ now that we got that out of the way. i would say just buy a turbo kit. for your car i would say F-MAX, it's a lot cheeper than trying doing a custom one the right way.. trust me this is my second set up.. i think the fmax kit is better because it looks a lot cleaner than the drag kit
and also it come with a Tial waste gate and not a DELTA that comes with the drag kit. i think you can pick up a f-max kit for around 3,000$ the kit comes with a fuel management system that you can throw in the trash, because h22 ecu's(p13) suck
majior **** with boost, i think hondata is the bang for your buck.. in your case you would halft convert your car to obd1 and get a p72 or p28 depending what your going to do with your set up.. last not least you gotta build your motor, so i told you what i spent for mine, i save a thousand on labor because i droped off the motor my self...thats just to get you to the basic set up.. i went a little futher
with my tranny and intake set up and some other bull **** but other than that thats about it.. i dont know what it's going to run in the 1/4 but i will be happy with 13's
it's a accord so it's heavy.. a few things to rember 1'st is if you plan on keeping your car street leagal dont go all out carzy with a open dump tube that **** is real ******* loud on h22's.. you know how it is living in cali and all. and 2'nd dont go out and buy a big *** 3" exaust unless you are boosting over 18+ psi. that **** is bull **** for street cars, rember hondas are not v-6 turbos and you will lose a whole lot of low end too. go with a 2 1/2 or 2 3/4 at most.. with that being said
there is a little help for ya

 

oh and thanks for the comps guys

 

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OK well first be prepaird to sepend around 10,000$ now that we got that out of the way. i would say just buy a turbo kit. for your car i would say F-MAX, it's a lot cheeper than trying doing a custom one the right way.. trust me this is my second set up.. i think the fmax kit is better because it looks a lot cleaner than the drag kit
and also it come with a Tial waste gate and not a DELTA that comes with the drag kit. i think you can pick up a f-max kit for around 3,000$ the kit comes with a fuel management system that you can throw in the trash, because h22 ecu's(p13) suck
majior **** with boost, i think hondata is the bang for your buck.. in your case you would halft convert your car to obd1 and get a p72 or p28 depending what your going to do with your set up.. last not least you gotta build your motor, so i told you what i spent for mine, i save a thousand on labor because i droped off the motor my self...thats just to get you to the basic set up.. i went a little futher
with my tranny and intake set up and some other bull **** but other than that thats about it.. i dont know what it's going to run in the 1/4 but i will be happy with 13's
it's a accord so it's heavy.. a few things to rember 1'st is if you plan on keeping your car street leagal dont go all out carzy with a open dump tube that **** is real ******* loud on h22's.. you know how it is living in cali and all. and 2'nd dont go out and buy a big *** 3" exaust unless you are boosting over 18+ psi. that **** is bull **** for street cars, rember hondas are not v-6 turbos and you will lose a whole lot of low end too. go with a 2 1/2 or 2 3/4 at most.. with that being said
there is a little help for ya</TD></TR></TABLE>

I still think regardless a custom turbo setup is the way to go. Buy a kit's manifold and piping, but other than that I think it's not worth it for a kit, as you shouldn't use the fuel management that comes with any of them.

 

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I still think regardless a custom turbo setup is the way to go. Buy a kit's manifold and piping, but other than that I think it's not worth it for a kit, as you shouldn't use the fuel management that comes with any of them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well it's a whole lot cheeper and cleaner i think, and for a street car it's perfect.
once you start to get in to heavy boost, the exaust manifold on a kit is shitty
and the plumbing changes.. the intercooler hast to match the flow of the turbo and pipeing, and it becomes a huge project.. like i said custom kits are great dont get me wrong. i'm giving my opion.For me... my car is a street car that i want fast and clean looking. if it were a drag set up, well lets just say it would not be a accord.
more along the lines of a EF or a EG..

 

here are the old pictures of a custom set up
i didnt like it too much, it looked like ****

 

well my car is going to be a street car but a street car running 12's is my goal. and iwth 14 lbs im sure you can hit high 12 low 13's. i want a custom kit cuz they said if i wnat 400whp a kit wont cut it, i need a custom for 400 whp. and you said your turbo kit is custom, what did u do to make the turbo kit custom? does custom include the intercooler, the turbine, the waiste gate, the intake mani? exhuat mani? um...pipping...what else.

 

how much would it be for the hondata and to convert to p72?

 

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oem bearings rebuild stuff another 2-300


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don't forget those wonderful gasket sets, another 400 roughly..... I would know, I just spent $662 on all gaskets and bearings..... damn factory ****