it seems in my friends 94 Integra GS-R that in 1st gear, no matter where he was in the powerband (above like 2500 anyway) if he quickly shifted into 2nd and let out the clutch, it would grab and the car would pull immediatly. thats one thing i looooved about his car. in my h22 prelude ive tried EVERYthing. no matter what theres always that extra hesitation or bounce before it starts to pull (hard to explain). i dont know if this means the car itself is too heavy or just to heavy in the front. would it help to move the battery to the trunk and get a CF hood? id love for it to feel a little more like an integra. btw a swap is out of the question. thanks. hell, does anyone even know what im talking about?

 

Get an H23

How's your clutch?

 

stock clutch. doesnt grab hard. slips only if i shift hard at 1st gear redline

 

surely an h23 is lighter than an h22. its a bigger engine right?

 

essentially the h22 and h23 are the same he said the h23 because it has more torque

 

they're about the same weight.

 

stiffer rear springs or increase the shock rate

 

it has nothing to do with torque. his GS-R only had a cai

 

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sell the lude and buy an integra.....

 

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lol

if its weight transfer, get stiffer springs and upgrade shocks as well. If its a clutch issue, then upgrade the clutch. As far as the hesitation goes, most all H22s that i know of have a slight hesitation between 3 and 4 thousand rmp. I am not sure how or if you can make it go away but it is a characteristic of the motor.

 

Sounds more like you've got either soft motor mounts or a soft clutch to me . . . .

Moving weight around is going to do very little to help tip-in throttle response.

 

yeah, i had 150 k on my factory honda clutch, and I had that hesitation you talked about, basically the clutch does not lock up completely

 

ok i dont know how the clutch has NETHING to do with the lag/hesitation around 3k rpm which im guessing u guys are talking about rolling start? or just shifting from 1 to 2 and u get a lag/hesitation? but if ur talkign about the hesitation from a rolling start stand point, my car did the same thing, from around 2-4k's it would lag and then around 4ish 5 it owuld just pick up and u can tell when it did, and when i went to the shop, they told me my sparks plugs were dirty and old and one is really fucked up so i replaced it and ever since then, it has not lagged, i dont kow if the spark plug had nething to do with it but once i changed that it never lagged *knock on wood* but i dont know. if you konw other wise tell me

 

it could be any number of things, but i'm having a hard time understanding what this hesitation is like. are you dropping under the powerband? is your clutch slipping? is it just not the same kind of jolt you get when you shift gears?

i think you might be in line for a new clutch, and that might increase that grabbing and going feeling you're talking about. Also, with the lude weighing about 600 lbs more than a dc2 it'll probably behoove you to get a CF hood.

in the end i'm thinking it's H22 gear ratios/FD and weight, as well as the stock clutch that are preventing your car from feeling as "responsive" as your friends geezer.

 

600 lbs DIFFERENCE U CRAZY!!?!?!??! its only what 200-300 lbs the most!

 

why the hell would you want your VTEC prelude to drive like a GS-R.

#1 - after the upset drivetrain recovers from your stupid short shift, you will walk the GS-R like a pink poodle.

#2- THE H23 DOES NOT HAVE MORE TORQUE THEN THE H22
the H22 actually has 2 ft/lbs or so MORE then the H23.

 

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the H22 actually has 2 ft/lbs or so MORE then the H23.</TD></TR></TABLE>

...but you don't have to wait a year to get to that torque...

The H23's def. a torquey motor, but it does only have like 156ft/lbs of torque.

 

ok guys first of all its not a power issue at all. im thinking the most accurate of causes are worn out shocks in the back and maybe i need a clutch that grabs a little better. his GS-R could easily get rubber shifting into 2nd. i cant even come close

 

im thinking either the owner before him upgraded the suspension/clutch (doubtful) or Acura just puts better parts on Integras because his GS-R was a 94 and the suspension still felt great and the clutch grabbed nice and hard. my Prelude is a 96 and the suspension is obviously WORKED and my clutch isnt nearly as aggressive

 

hold on, the problem is when he shifts from 1st to 2nd that it lags? and it doesn't pick up? you dont get a PULL right when ur in 2nd it takes like a sec or so to pick up? as in the motor doesat give hte power out right when ur into 2nd gear it takes a sec then it picks up? is that what the problem is?

 

his car is fine. my prelude seems to kinda bounce before it starts to pull smoothly

 

but are you talking about when u shift into 2nd?

 

yes

 

oh yea, i have that EXACT problem if i think its what your talking about, right when u shift into second gear its like in that 2nd gear for a split sec. its lags, i konw waht u mean if its that. hte only thing i konw is once i doubt its the clutch, its usually tires from what i konw from stiin in others cars.

 

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yeah turns out it's 300-350 lbs, more or less.

that's still 3 extra girls you're draggin around, plus the 3 girls that are really sitting in the car because as we all know, chicks dig the bb6.

i'd kill for a CW of around 2600 lbs.