Hey, I was thinking about getting a 91 CRX for $1,600 (i think i could knock like $100 - $300 off) w/ 160,000 on it for a beater car. I'll just drive it for the winter and give it to my sister next summer. I was thinking about getting a engine swap for it since its well pasted its prime.

I don't want to spend anymore than $2000 for the swap including the engine and labor. What engines will go in every easily to the CRX? I want an engine from a late model car to go into the CRX. I was thinking about a B18B1 (94-01 integra RS,LS,GS) or an D16Y7 ('96-'00 Civic CX/DX/LX)

So what do you guys think?

 

I think you've got a lot of money laying around to be thinking about a swapped CRX for a beater. Besides, the stock engine will last longer than 160,000 with proper maintenance.

But anyway, you should try the DOHC ZC or D16Z6 or Y8. All of these will work with your stock transaxle. All will require wiring changes, with the DOHC ZC being the easiest (for the D16Z6 / Y8 you will probably want to make the car OBD 1). I'm thinking that a B series engine is going to cost more than $2000 to swap in, realistically.

 

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I just met a guy who bought a CRX, put a 3k stereo in, and then swapped a GSR in, all for a winter beater. I was pissed, because it is alot nicer then my daily driver.

 

First off, the stock motor, either the D16A6, or the 1.5L will last well past 160k. My 91 Si HB has 195K miles on it now. I bought it at 180K and it runs better than a lot of new cars I have driven. My 93 Prelude has 206K on it now.

Which model CRX do you have now? Is it an automatic or manual? If manual, 4sp or 5sp?

Before you do anything, decide what your goals are. If you are just wanting a nice reliable car for your sister to drive, then the plan would be a lot different than if you want something to tear up the streets with. There are several ways you can go for either if you want to stay under $2000. The difficulty varries greatly.

Options would be anythign from rebuilding the current motor, buying a 1.5L SOHC race motor from DH racing, swapping in a D16Z6, possibly the B16 swap if you don't have to pay for labor, and on and on. Really lots of options.

Let me know a little more about your goals and your current setup and I'd be able to narrow down a few suggestions.

John

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stryke23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First off, the stock motor, either the D16A6, or the 1.5L will last well past 160k. My 91 Si HB has 195K miles on it now. I bought it at 180K and it runs better than a lot of new cars I have driven. My 93 Prelude has 206K on it now.

Which model CRX do you have now? Is it an automatic or manual? If manual, 4sp or 5sp?

Before you do anything, decide what your goals are. If you are just wanting a nice reliable car for your sister to drive, then the plan would be a lot different than if you want something to tear up the streets with. There are several ways you can go for either if you want to stay under $2000. The difficulty varries greatly.

Options would be anythign from rebuilding the current motor, buying a 1.5L SOHC race motor from DH racing, swapping in a D16Z6, possibly the B16 swap if you don't have to pay for labor, and on and on. Really lots of options.

Let me know a little more about your goals and your current setup and I'd be able to narrow down a few suggestions.

John
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I've never drove a car past 150,000 on it. I'll feel uncomfortable driveing a car with that many miles on it. I don't have a CRX now. I'm not building a race car. Just a good reliable car (and maybe some HP for those highways ). These are the two CRX that I'm considering to buy:

Both of these are Automatic but I'm consider doing a manual conversion for fun but I dunno how much thats gonna cost.

1991 CRX

http://www.autotrader.com/find...ist=2

1990 CRX

http://www.autotrader.com/find...ist=2

Let me know what you think

 

Are they both the same car? Same phone number and both say new paint.

In any case, I was like you before. I had never driven a car with that many miles on it. My 95 grand am didn't last much over 100k miles. My gf had 2 sunbirds, neither lasted much over 100k miles.

Then my friend showed up at my house with a 90 civic Si with 150k miles on it he just spent $3000 on. I asked why he spent that much on a car that could die at any time. Then I watched as he drove it... a LOT... he consistently drove from Waterloo Iowa to Houghton Michigan, about 10 hours each direction... every weekend... his car then had 187k miles on it. All he had to do was change the oil. These honda motors consistently last 200-300k miles or more as long as you change the timing belt every 60-90k miles.

If you want reliability, my first suggestion is to check out the motor in the car. Do a compression check. If everything looks good, then I wouldn't bother doing the swap at all. If you need to know compression numbers for your motor, let me know once you find out which motor it actually is.

Second thing, you could revitalize that motor if you do have compression issues depending on the cause. If you have low compression in a cylinder due to bad rings, you could replace rings, rod and main bearings, and be good to go. That is assuming there is no wear of the cylinders so they are "oval shaped". May want to replace the oil pump, and of course timing belt while you have it apart. Then you're good for another 60-90k until the timing belt needs to be changed again.

For swaps, easiest would be to find a D16A6 from a CRXSi and drop it in. Finding one with low mileage may be difficult though. The other option is a ZC swap. It's within your budget. Direct bolt up, fairly simple swap. Not a whole lot of gain over the stock Si motor, but a big jump from the 1.5L.

Next would be to swap in a D16Z6 from a 92-95Si or EX. HP about the same as the ZC, but more aftermarket parts for that motor and you get the nice Vtec. You then either need to convert wiring harness over or get a seperate Vtec controller. Personally I don't see the logic in this swap. Too much work for too little gain. A B16A1 swap is less work, and a lot more gain..

A bare minimum B16 swap could be possible, but will probably go over your budget unless you get very lucky.

I'd suggest to drive it until you have a problem, then either do the simple ZC swap, or go all the way and go B16. Even with the stock 1.5L, that little CRX will go fairly well on the highway compared to grand ams, etc that have 4cyl in them. Check compression and find out when the timing belt was replaced. If both of those are good, it should definitely last a long time. If you really want to swap, either go with a ZC, or B16. I can't really see doing anything in between.

John

 

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In any case, I was like you before. I had never driven a car with that many miles on it. My 95 grand am didn't last much over 100k miles. My gf had 2 sunbirds, neither lasted much over 100k miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good call, I didn't notice if they are the same car or not. The dealer doesn't give the vin number. I guess I'll just have to look at it in person. I don't really know much about the inside of cars. I just know alot about the basics and what does what and what goes where.

 

with a 2000 budget.. you can get a b16 and just pay one of your friends that do swaps to hook you up.. if done right and with good maintenance.. the b16 should last you

 

I don't think any of my friends can do swaps. I'm pretty sure they all paid for their swaps. Even if they did, I wouldn't really feel comfortable with them doing it. I'll just have a gut feeling that they didn't do something right so I want it done professionally.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91b16aCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">91 crx hf w b16 for sale $3500 obo
crx includes:
jdm b16a with 2000 itr cam shafts (motor has about 38000miles)
y1 cable tranny with a act extreme clutch
zc carbon fiber hood w/sparco hood pins, vision style corners
bronze apex n1 muffler with 2 1/4 piping
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Too bad you don't live in PA