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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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I am on #13 and it is dying. Seems like the napa/checker ones die slow miserable deaths via the outer joint clicking itself to death and the DSS ones just explode upon aggresive launches. I seems like after maybe 2-3 HPDE events my outer joints are fried. The boots look fine it is just that they click like crazy.......


does this happen to anyone else?

car is a turbo accord, nothing too crazy
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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two of my cv boots took dumps last time i was at the track. it got me thinkin if theres anything i can coat the boots with to prevent them from cracking and leaking grease everywhere... i've got this stuff you can spray on rubber belts thats supposed to help them not squeak, last longer, and not slip. i wonder if thats something i can spray on the boots as well to help prolong their life. anyone done this/thought about this before? would i have to be a guinea pig if people think its a good idea?

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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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I was going through axles like mad recently. After we installed the third one at a single event, we checked and found that the crossmember that the rear motor mount is on had 3 of the 4 bolts pretty loose. The axle we put in then has lasted for a couple races now and counting.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 02:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Accord94DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

does this happen to anyone else?

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yes. napa/auto zone/discount auto store suck. dss suck. stock is decent, but break under prolonged use. i have had good luck with Raxles.com axles. he has a few different varieties, but i went with his IMSA road race axle. so far, so good. no breaks. http://www.raxles.com gets a from me! (888) 257-8192 or (800) 257-8192 speak to marty, tell him chris from new york sent you
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 03:45 AM
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Are you a drag racer or a road racer? Do you run a lot of camber? How much horsepower are your running. You shouldn't be breaking axels either you a problem in your geometry or your car is putting out tremendous amounts of horsepower.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 03:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yes. napa/auto zone/discount auto store suck. dss suck. stock is decent, but break under prolonged use. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have been running this whole season on Pep Boys axles. I launch the car on 25's at 6k, broke 3 axles all season. 2 axles were because i was trying out a rock solid rear suspension, and could have been avoided. So.. the axles dont suck, sometimes its just the drivers that suck
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 05:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIXTYdashONE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So.. the axles dont suck, sometimes its just the drivers that suck</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, i am not a drag racer. i am a autocrosser. discount stores and DSS (3 sets before i gave up) just plain suck for a fast fwd autocross car. the outer cv joints cannot handle the combined stress of serious lsd, large sticky hoosiers, lfb, tight radius corners, and my measily 186whp. you are right though, i guess my driving sucks. i ask too much of junk axles...



that was the last axles i broke before getting the new ones from marty.cas you can see, i do not have an axle shaft issue, but an outer cv issue. the stock ones last a while, but give up eventually. DSS has vibration issues, and outer cv's last half as long as a stock axle. reman axles from discount stores are good for the average car, but last as long as the DSS ones.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 05:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JHill &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was going through axles like mad recently. After we installed the third one at a single event, we checked and found that the crossmember that the rear motor mount is on had 3 of the 4 bolts pretty loose. The axle we put in then has lasted for a couple races now and counting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

glad to hear you figured out the problem.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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i was there for one of rodney's axle breakes. i think it was what he said. stickey tires+crazy d20 diff + tight radius turn. everyone was supprised when he had it changed in 15 minutes tho . people are still talking about it.

as for myself, i have actually broken an autoxone axle (and i have street tires, open diff and about 50whp). the inner cv sxploded. bad build quality i guess. they swore i was drag racing the car or had crazy power but had to warranty it.

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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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I went through two axles from Autozone, but its lifetime warranty so i can't complain.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lo-Buck EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> about 50whp
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don't lie...i wanna see the dyno charts
i'm still betting closer to 40 whp
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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gotta get it on dyno before we put the new motor in. the new one should be good for like 70whp
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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Only time I ever tried a non-Honda or non-Raxles.com axle, I got less than two days out of it. Brand new. Both joints seized and turned purple.

Never, ever again. And it wasn't even that much cheaper than a raxles one.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIXTYdashONE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have been running this whole season on Pep Boys axles. I launch the car on 25's at 6k, broke 3 axles all season. 2 axles were because i was trying out a rock solid rear suspension, and could have been avoided. So.. the axles dont suck, sometimes its just the drivers that suck</TD></TR></TABLE>

Comedy right here.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krshultz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only time I ever tried a non-Honda or non-Raxles.com axle, I got less than two days out of it. Brand new. Both joints seized and turned purple.

Never, ever again. And it wasn't even that much cheaper than a raxles one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

::waiting patiently for someone to make fun of karl for something of his breaking::
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krshultz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only time I ever tried a non-Honda or non-Raxles.com axle, I got less than two days out of it. Brand new. Both joints seized and turned purple.
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Karl-

That's got to be SARS, seriously. I've been cheaping out on Autozone axles since day one. Never once have I had one go.

Jason-
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krshultz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only time I ever tried a non-Honda or non-Raxles.com axle, I got less than two days out of it. Brand new. Both joints seized and turned purple.
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sounds to me like the driver sucks......
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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i suck at driving and my car has boatloads of torque.......that might be bad..
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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I have had the same problem with discount auto store axles. I replaced on in my GTI ( not a easy chore btw) and the car was worse off, the car vibrated and shook. I then put the stock, 100k axle back in and it has been ok ever since.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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i hate those damn vw axles! all those damn torx bolts
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

sounds to me like the driver sucks...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well sheet, I suck worse than Chris and I never once busted an axle. Boot's maybe but never an axle yet (knocks on own head.)

Get whatever axles rodney runs, trust us, if they're tough enough for him they're tough enough for almost all of us. (Some exceptions besides SIXTYdashONE of course.)

I got a chuckle out of this post earlier and just HAD to come back.

Hey rodney, why can't I bust my axles like you? Don't I got Da MaD sKiLlZ yO?

I want to be like rodney and break everything Wahhh, wahhh, wahhh, I want to break the ATS civic Too! Wahhh, wahhh, Wahhh.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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RAXLES with stock boots rule..

Corey - who has lost more races too broken axles, and has more CV grease in his engine bay then anyone else
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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Corey - who has lost more races too broken axles, and has more CV grease in his engine bay then anyone else </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm willing to challenge that corey.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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Hey, i wasnt trying to bust ***** guys, i was just stating that sometimes the axles are not always the problem. I know guys that have similiar setups to mine, and go through axles like they mass produced them.. I am aware that drag racing and atuo-x are different, but im just trying to give you some different angles to look at the problem from. Good luck fellahs
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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Rodney- what stage DSS axles were you using?

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