i went to honda earlier 2day to buy coolant and the guy says to go to autozone n buy some anti freeze b/c its the same sh*t.

then i said i use 5w-30 in my engine and i want to switch to synthetic oil but i heard from (u guys in that 2 page post about oil) that its bad to switch when u got high milage already. hes said...synthetic is a waste of money & 5w-20 is semi-synthetic. he said honda recommends 5w-20 now in those engines. he showed me some chart. what u guys think bout that. i believe the chart but is 5w-20 semi-synthetic??

just bought it---->98 accord ex 129k 5 spd. runs as if it was new. all highway miles on it thanks for ur opinion!! i want to switch to synthetic

i know previuos owner used penzoil, dont know for how long

 

oh yeah..the blue chart at the part department huh?

so he told you, the 5w20 you get from honda is syn?

one more notice for joo, the coolant isn't the same sh-t, they carry a brand secert which you are not suppose to mix.
anyways, i have not problem mixing honda's oem with prestone however.

 

na he said in general 5w-20 in synthetic n it dont matter what brand i use. i always use castro gtx n want to switch to synthetic..what ya think?

i used prestone for my anti-freeze. i dont like to be cheap with my car!

 

jeez 5w-20 damn thats thin, they really wanted to meet epa requirements bad, huh?

 

they recommend it if you dont live in a place when it get really really hot or really really cool(or worst, both)

i use 5w20 all the time(except with boost)

~~valvoline syn. blend~~

 

i use 10w-30 in hot *** florida.. It keeps my baby running smooth.. 5w-20 is just water

 

Same here 10w-30 for New Orleans and Daytona Beach. Castrol Syntec

 

20w 50 bitch.

 

Castrol GTX Beyatch!

 

My Mom drives a 2000 accord which is almost the same as the 98 and she uses 5-20. She gets it changes at Honda because of her waranty. I think the only benefit of switching to 5w20 might be slightly better gas milage. It is pretty thin and I would be scared to put it in my engine. If 5w30 is working I'd stick with it.

 

Of cource, 5w-20 is available in full or semi synthetic but I don't think the bulk 5w-20 at the dealer is semi synthetic. The cost of an LOF is the same no matter what grade oil you use except for 0w-20 ($6.50 per quart...sold individually...I believe the 0w-20 is a full sythetic made by Mobil 1 but I haven't really cared enough to look). The last time I checked, semi synthetic was double the price of the 'normal' oil.
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There are 3 different charts Honda has issued over the last couple of years. The latest chart states it is okay to use 5w20 oil on CERTAIN models even though the factory fill is 5w30 (the oil cap and owner's manual will say to use 5w30).
You will find most dealers will fill the car with the grade stated on the oil cap or the owner's manual (a dealer in a warm climate will probably use 10w30 exclusively).

In a few years, Honda will have a new chart that states to only use 0w20 (or vegetable oil in an emergency) in all their cars...LOL.


Judging by the antifreeze comment and the semi synthetic 5w20 comment, it sounds like you found one of the lube boys or just a tech who isn't too bright.





Modified by AngryTroll at 12:38 AM 10/7/2003

 

I was going to post the oil reccomendation charts but I have to upload them to my website (it's too late for that crap). All three say something different...LOL.

 

if it comes out in clumps then you know its good.


maple syrup

 

0-40

30w is still kinda light for my taste

 

Well, synthetic oil can be a waste of money because Honda engines will last hundreds of thousand miles with just regular oil anyway. Synthetic oil helps the engine last longer, run smoother, and retain power longer (due to less friction damage) than regular oil. But for an average driver, the 4x cost of synthetic oil can be a WASTE of money. It's not like you'll get 4x the life, gas mileage, or benefits by going with synthetic oil.

 

cant go wrong with free full synthetic valvoline

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by showgunz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, synthetic oil can be a waste of money because Honda engines will last hundreds of thousand miles with just regular oil anyway. Synthetic oil helps the engine last longer, run smoother, and retain power longer (due to less friction damage) than regular oil. But for an average driver, the 4x cost of synthetic oil can be a WASTE of money. It's not like you'll get 4x the life, gas mileage, or benefits by going with synthetic oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>

after spending lots of money doing a h22 swap , i call using a mobil 1 cheap insurance. people waste $25-30 or so having the dealer do their oil changes with regular oil, while i do it my self and spend about the same, but use a honda oem filter and mobil 1. the benefit is, that syn is better oil that can stand up to high heat which can come from drive your car hard. if you drive like a grandma than yes syn is a waste, but if you spent good money for a swap or turbo and drive it like it was meant to be it's not a waste to me.

 

so would u guys recommed me switchin to synthetic? i live in the city and go through alot of stop n go traffic. i change my oil @every 2500 miles anyways

 

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I'd use synthetic if your pushing the envelope alot (high-revs, WOT). Synthetic is providing extra insurance against that metal-on-metal contact.

Otherwise, regular Valvoline is great.

 

Full snyth is what you want to run if you're hard on your car (i.e., stop and go city driving), or if you're using forced induction of any kind. Those things create higher temps than just your average joe, and those higher temps break down the dino juice pretty quick. Snythetics are good at temperatures well over those dino can handle. They also significantly reduce wear and will make your engine last longer. I don't know of any gas engine that lasts for "hundreds of thousands of miles" without being worn out--that's bunk. But the synthetic will make it last longer than it would have with dino.

That said, I wouldn't go changing my synthetic every 2500 miles--you'd just be throwing your money away. You can certainly put more miles between changes--the thing you have to watch is the filter. If your filter is not getting clogged up at say 5000 or 7500 mile intervals, then you can feel okay with that interval. The longer intervals help offset the initial higher cost of the oil.

IMO, steer clear of the synthetic blends--they're mostly dino and what's the point of putting any dino in your engine if it's going to tar up anyway? Yeah, you'll have 20% of your oil in good shape, and the other 80% will be burnt crap. They don't cost much less than full snythetic anyway.

 

I bought my 94 with 98k on the odo and i put in 10w30 mobile 1 synthetic
in her. I now have 251k plus and still use the mobile 1. So far no problems
and doesn't use hardly any oil. I'd switch.

 

i used to run mobil 1 synthetic 10W-30 in my 94 before i totalled it. i live in georgia so it can get pretty hot and humid here. but now im runnin valvoline max life synthetic-blend 10w-30 in my 97, i just recently started using the blend last oil change because the preivous owner ran conventional, im switching to mobil 1 synthetic 10w-30 nevt oil change.

 

well this is what i heard from a very experienced mechanic/, feriend of mine, trust me he knows his sh*t.. hes like if u switch synthetic at high milage all that oil that gunked up will be cleaned out, but it will all go into the strainer and clog it up. And it will cause pressure in the oil pump and everyually pop a bearingor two. so only use synthetic if u been using it from day 1. iv always trusted what he says, i aint sayin that hes right or wrong!

 

I have always used Preston antifreeze in all 3 of our Hondas.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1.8Tea &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have always used Preston antifreeze in all 3 of our Hondas.</TD></TR></TABLE>That's good. It doesn't matter what antifreeze you use. Just poor straight ethylene glycol in your radiator. It doesn't matter. And it doesn't matter what oil you use. It's all the same. Parts are all the same, too. Go to AutoZone and buy out the shop. Did you wreck your car? Do you need new body panels? Buy the stuff made in China. The fit is close enough. It's all the same.

Did I mention tools are all the same, too?