Who would be interested in traction bars for a preludes?
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Who would be interested in traction bars for a preludes?
Im thinking about getting some fab'd up and possibly putting them into production. I just wanted to see what kind of market there is for them and who would be interested in traction bars for their 'lude...
This is just in the idea stages, nothing done yet... just looking for some feedback???
This is just in the idea stages, nothing done yet... just looking for some feedback???
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Re: Who would be interested in traction bars for a preludes? (RS_H22)
What do you mean by traction bar? Do you mean strut(tower) bars? If so I'm intrested as long as they have welded hinges and not like DC sports or ebay strut bars, something similar to Neuspeed, but slightly thicker. 
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Re: Who would be interested in traction bars for a preludes? (h22mark)
No, traction bars as in these...
http://dtrfab.com/traction_bars/
I wont be going through DTR to get these made if I decide to go through with this. DTR's site was the only one I could think of with good pics to show you what I was talking about.
http://dtrfab.com/traction_bars/
I wont be going through DTR to get these made if I decide to go through with this. DTR's site was the only one I could think of with good pics to show you what I was talking about.
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Re: (satan_srv)
I honestly have noidea how theyd work on a prelude. I know a chassis fab'r that told me he could make them but hed want a quantity buy... hence the searching for interest in the product.
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Re: (RS_H22)
i dunno about the preludes, but you should make them for the eclipse crowd too. i know alot of people that need something like that.
they have major wheel hop on the fwd setups
they have major wheel hop on the fwd setups
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shouldn't
The run the opposite way of the radius rod if you look. The radius rod runs from the LCA to the subframe up front. These *look* as if they go from the LCA backwards, as the pic on the right looks like you can see the mudflap this side of the wheel (if that is a mud flap). It would keep the wheel from pulling the suspension forward because of bad bushings etc. Atleast that's how it looks to me.
As for the handling, I doubt it. We don't have a major amount of travel as is, plus those are hinged to allow the suspension to travel up and down. it would be no worse than the radius rod on the LCA already acts.
Again I don't know for sure, but that's surely how it looks to me
The run the opposite way of the radius rod if you look. The radius rod runs from the LCA to the subframe up front. These *look* as if they go from the LCA backwards, as the pic on the right looks like you can see the mudflap this side of the wheel (if that is a mud flap). It would keep the wheel from pulling the suspension forward because of bad bushings etc. Atleast that's how it looks to me.
As for the handling, I doubt it. We don't have a major amount of travel as is, plus those are hinged to allow the suspension to travel up and down. it would be no worse than the radius rod on the LCA already acts.
Again I don't know for sure, but that's surely how it looks to me
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Re: (rjr162)
I assume it would replace our already made our front crossbeam?
The only design difference our traction bars would have over the civics/integra's beside actual lengths would be a location for the front motor mount.
I was talking to XES about this situation and now I am starting to wonder how benificial is our front cross beam when compared to an aftermarket traction bar do you think? The bars have less cross sectional area then our beams have, so I would believe our 'beams' are stronger. The main reason I would get traction bars would be for clearance issues since we are already provided with a beam in the stock form.
The only design difference our traction bars would have over the civics/integra's beside actual lengths would be a location for the front motor mount.
I was talking to XES about this situation and now I am starting to wonder how benificial is our front cross beam when compared to an aftermarket traction bar do you think? The bars have less cross sectional area then our beams have, so I would believe our 'beams' are stronger. The main reason I would get traction bars would be for clearance issues since we are already provided with a beam in the stock form.
Re: Who would be interested in traction bars for a preludes? (h22mark)
if you could prove a good strong product, i'd be interested.
from what i remember somebody else was talking about prelude traction bars.
from what i remember somebody else was talking about prelude traction bars.
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Re: (GudeH23a)
Spend your money somewhere else...wheel hop isn't a big issue unless you have some type of chassis problem (or if you have removed pieces). No one makes them for preludes because we essentially already have 'em 
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Re: (XES)
how come your site never works? i want to see some pics and vids of ur car. whats your setup? custom kit?i have a 97 SH and want to go custom kit but not sure what exatcly i would need and brands. if u can help it'll be nice, thanks.
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I haven't gotten wheel hop since I installed polyurethane mount inserts. If I start getting wheel hop again, and stiffer rears don't fix it I'd be interested in some traction bars.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shouldn't
The run the opposite way of the radius rod if you look. The radius rod runs from the LCA to the subframe up front. These *look* as if they go from the LCA backwards, as the pic on the right looks like you can see the mudflap this side of the wheel (if that is a mud flap). It would keep the wheel from pulling the suspension forward because of bad bushings etc. Atleast that's how it looks to me.
As for the handling, I doubt it. We don't have a major amount of travel as is, plus those are hinged to allow the suspension to travel up and down. it would be no worse than the radius rod on the LCA already acts.
Again I don't know for sure, but that's surely how it looks to me</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im going to assume you are refering to theses pics
take a closer look at those pics, those go from the LCA to the subframe up front, if you look at the first pic above the radius rod you see the bottom of the tranny and the writing states that the wheel is fully to the left ( which is going to the opposite side of the pic )
In the second picture you see the bottom of the oil pan and the writing states that the wheel is fully to the right ( which is going towards the opposite side of the pic )
those pictures are going from the front of the car back, if you look under your prelude, we already have those from the factory, so you would be making a product that we already have. which is probably the reason that no company makes these for us, because honda handled that problem from the get go. i dont know about civics, or newer preludes, but i know that i also have those same bars on my rear suspension as well ( and no its not 4WS )
as stated above, we dont need that product because we dont really have a problem with traction and wheel hop. but if you have enough power under the hood that you do have that problem, i suggest maybe making a STRONGER radius rod??
The run the opposite way of the radius rod if you look. The radius rod runs from the LCA to the subframe up front. These *look* as if they go from the LCA backwards, as the pic on the right looks like you can see the mudflap this side of the wheel (if that is a mud flap). It would keep the wheel from pulling the suspension forward because of bad bushings etc. Atleast that's how it looks to me.
As for the handling, I doubt it. We don't have a major amount of travel as is, plus those are hinged to allow the suspension to travel up and down. it would be no worse than the radius rod on the LCA already acts.
Again I don't know for sure, but that's surely how it looks to me</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im going to assume you are refering to theses pics
take a closer look at those pics, those go from the LCA to the subframe up front, if you look at the first pic above the radius rod you see the bottom of the tranny and the writing states that the wheel is fully to the left ( which is going to the opposite side of the pic )
In the second picture you see the bottom of the oil pan and the writing states that the wheel is fully to the right ( which is going towards the opposite side of the pic )
those pictures are going from the front of the car back, if you look under your prelude, we already have those from the factory, so you would be making a product that we already have. which is probably the reason that no company makes these for us, because honda handled that problem from the get go. i dont know about civics, or newer preludes, but i know that i also have those same bars on my rear suspension as well ( and no its not 4WS )
as stated above, we dont need that product because we dont really have a problem with traction and wheel hop. but if you have enough power under the hood that you do have that problem, i suggest maybe making a STRONGER radius rod??
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Re: (JohnnyTequila)
I had checked into this a while ago and was pretty much told the same thing. Preludes already have this piece so companies have stayed away from preludes when it comes to traction bars. But my question is, can you make a stronger one? There are more and more Preludes out there with serious HP numbers and I would think there is a growing market for something stronger. Obviously cmpanies make parts that our cars already have. They just make them stronger or better suited for a particular need. Can't you make some that will replace what we have and be geared to the racing crowd? I don't know how good are traction bars are since I'm not done with my setup yet.
Gudeh23a, is wheel hop an issue for you? If so, how bad is it.
Gudeh23a, is wheel hop an issue for you? If so, how bad is it.
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Re: (JohnnyTequila)
Yeah, but the 2nd pic to me looked like a mudflap or something of the sort on the right side (of course I Didn't get why you'd have a mudflap on a race car).
I guess upgrading the radius rod bushings may do the trick, but even poly's have a little give. The best thing I'd say to do is on a real drag car or with really bad wheel hop, replace the rear bushing on the radius rod with a peice of aluminum like alot of pro guys tend to do. this would eliminate any forward travel from the whole suspension on that side (due to bushing give), which would in-affect kill any wheel hop also.
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Im going to assume you are refering to theses pics
take a closer look at those pics, those go from the LCA to the subframe up front, if you look at the first pic above the radius rod you see the bottom of the tranny and the writing states that the wheel is fully to the left ( which is going to the opposite side of the pic )
In the second picture you see the bottom of the oil pan and the writing states that the wheel is fully to the right ( which is going towards the opposite side of the pic )
those pictures are going from the front of the car back, if you look under your prelude, we already have those from the factory, so you would be making a product that we already have. which is probably the reason that no company makes these for us, because honda handled that problem from the get go. i dont know about civics, or newer preludes, but i know that i also have those same bars on my rear suspension as well ( and no its not 4WS )
as stated above, we dont need that product because we dont really have a problem with traction and wheel hop. but if you have enough power under the hood that you do have that problem, i suggest maybe making a STRONGER radius rod??
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I guess upgrading the radius rod bushings may do the trick, but even poly's have a little give. The best thing I'd say to do is on a real drag car or with really bad wheel hop, replace the rear bushing on the radius rod with a peice of aluminum like alot of pro guys tend to do. this would eliminate any forward travel from the whole suspension on that side (due to bushing give), which would in-affect kill any wheel hop also.
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Im going to assume you are refering to theses pics
take a closer look at those pics, those go from the LCA to the subframe up front, if you look at the first pic above the radius rod you see the bottom of the tranny and the writing states that the wheel is fully to the left ( which is going to the opposite side of the pic )
In the second picture you see the bottom of the oil pan and the writing states that the wheel is fully to the right ( which is going towards the opposite side of the pic )
those pictures are going from the front of the car back, if you look under your prelude, we already have those from the factory, so you would be making a product that we already have. which is probably the reason that no company makes these for us, because honda handled that problem from the get go. i dont know about civics, or newer preludes, but i know that i also have those same bars on my rear suspension as well ( and no its not 4WS )
as stated above, we dont need that product because we dont really have a problem with traction and wheel hop. but if you have enough power under the hood that you do have that problem, i suggest maybe making a STRONGER radius rod??
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