Has anyone ever tried this? A prelude brake swap from 92-96, or even a 5-lug Prelude 97+ brake swap on a 4th gen accord?

 

5 Lug Swap and Accord V6 Brake Upgrade (With Optional Legend Dual-Piston Brake Upgrade)
By: Chris Peters (martaigne@accordinglydone.com)

Parts needed:
94-95 Acura Legend GS Sedan Dual-Piston Front Calipers
-OR-
95+ Honda Accord V6/92+ Honda Prelude VTEC Front Calipers (1L, 1R)

23T Caliper Brackets** (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey/95-97 Honda Accord V6 Front Knuckles* (1L, 1R)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Wheel Bearings (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Hubs (2)
98+ Acura ITR/97+ Honda Prelude Front Rotors(2)
97+ Honda Prelude Hub/Bearing Assemblies (2)
98+ Acura ITR/98+ Honda Accord V6 Rear Rotors (2)
Rotor Screws (8)
20 lugnuts

4 5x114.3 Wheels with ~42? offset


Notes:
* If you have a 95-97 Accord, there is a chance that it already has the proper knuckles. I don't recommend buying the knuckles until you find out for certain that the new bearings do not bolt right into your original knuckle.

** You may have to order the 23T brackets seperately from the calipers. Legend calipers often come with 28T brackets, and Accord V6 calipers come with 25T brackets. Prelude VTEC calipers come with 23T brackets.

Front:
Raise the front of the car on jackstands. Remove the front wheels. Remove the 2 17mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle.

Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Do not attempt to drink brake fluid. Remove the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle.

Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the axle. Remove cotter pins from the lower ball joint, upper ball joint, and tie rod end castle nuts. Remove all three 17mm castle nuts. Pop tie rod end out of knuckle, lightly tap with a BFH if necessary.

Remove upper ball joint from knuckle by pressing upper control arm upwards, use BFH at your discretion. Pull knuckle out of lower control arm, may require the BFH again. Pull knuckle off of axle, being careful not to pull inner axle bearings out of the race.

Lay knuckle down on floor, studs facing outwards. Remove the 4 14mm bolts from the knuckle. Save these. Tap bearing/hub out of the knuckle. (If you have a 95-97 Accord, test fitment of new bearings in knuckle, if they don't fit, buy the above listed knuckles.) Assemble new bearing and hub together.

Place hub studs-down on cardboard, wood, or matting to protect the studs. Align new bearing over the hub, and press it on as far as you can by hand. Don't give yourself a hernia in the process. Place a piece of sturdy wood (i.e. 2x4) over the bearing. Whack repeatedly with BFH until hub and bearing are seated completely together. Get the knuckle and place it over the bearing, it should slide on fairly easily. Take the 4 14mm bolts and bolt the knuckle and bearing together.

Install the knuckle back on the car by reversing the steps to remove it. Be sure to tighten all nuts to spec and replace all cotter pins on castle nuts. Install new rotor on the hub by using 2 rotor screws. Take the new assembled caliper and slide it over the rotor. Be sure the banjo fitting aligns with the raised tabs on the caliper. (For Legend calipers, this means you have to use the caliper marked R on the left, and the one marked L on the right.) Mount the caliper on the knuckle using the 2 17mm bolts. Replace the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle. Mount the banjo fitting using the 14mm banjo bolt.

Repeat for opposite side of the car.

Rear:
Raise the rear of the car on jackstands. Remove the rear wheels. Remove the 2 14mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle. Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Again, do not attempt to drink brake fluid. If you're thirsty, go get a beer!

Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the spindle. Pull off the assembled hub and rotor. Place new hub over spindle. Replace spindle nut on spindle, being sure to torque to spec. There may be 2-3 threads of the nut still showing. This is normal, and is safe as long as you have the nut properly tightened. Place new rotor over hub, and affix using rotor screws. Place caliper back over rotor, and attach it to the knuckle with the 2 14mm bolts. Replace banjo fitting and 14mm banjo bolt.

Repeat for opposite side of the car.

Bleed your brakes using standard procudure, and enjoy.

A few small hamsters and many beers were harmed in the making of this tech article... but the hamsters enjoyed it thoroughly.


taken from AccordinglyDone.com...talk to a guy named Martaigne if you have any more questions about this

 

i see the picture is of a 5th gen, now does this swap work with a 4th gen as well?

 

since the setup on 4th gens and 5th gens are nearly identical, i am guessing that it would work on a 4th gen as well

 

anyone out there ever done it for a 4th gen before?

 

wowzers....I've finally seen a 5-lug swap onto a 94-97 accord....now i wanna see one on a 90-93

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22Accord90DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i see the picture is of a 5th gen, now does this swap work with a 4th gen as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22Accord90DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone out there ever done it for a 4th gen before?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chyknees &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wowzers....I've finally seen a 5-lug swap onto a 94-97 accord....now i wanna see one on a 90-93 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Feel free to research it, write up the parts list when you're done and we'll publish the tech article.

 

Good info......
Time to do mines

 

I take it that the reason it wouldn't work, is that the parts listed for the 94+ swap probably won't be the same for 90-93. My question is this: How similar are the 90-93 to 94-95 suspensions/brakes? For example, are the 94-95 brakes interchangeable with 90-93? Are coilover kits interchangeable between the two generations? The five-lug may not be possible, but it is still possible to upgrade to the legend 2-piston and bigger rotors on 90-93 Accords and retain 4x114.3 as mentioned on accordinglydone.com?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikaleg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I take it that the reason it wouldn't work, is that the parts listed for the 94+ swap probably won't be the same for 90-93. My question is this: How similar are the 90-93 to 94-95 suspensions/brakes? For example, are the 94-95 brakes interchangeable with 90-93? Are coilover kits interchangeable between the two generations? The five-lug may not be possible, but it is still possible to upgrade to the legend 2-piston and bigger rotors on 90-93 Accords and retain 4x114.3 as mentioned on accordinglydone.com?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can still upgrade the brakes. Just use the Legend brakes and wagon rotors, for the simplest swap. The reason the 5-lug won't work is because the 4th gen has slightly different knuckles than the 5th gens. However, my business partner will be attaining a 4th gen in 2 weeks and I'll be all over the suspension on that thing to figure it out.

 

Good lookin' out. We will all be awaiting your progress.

 

would get the front and the back of an 97+ prelude non SH model just swap in ? or ez to do this way ? i would like ot add 13" brembo near future