Taken from: http://www.todaracing.com/prod....html

Some of the higlights include:

- Individual Throttle Bodies
- 2.2 Litre Stroker Kit w/ 13.0:1 Pistons
- High Compression Pistons
- VTEC Killer Camshafts
- Camshafts v.3 & v.4
- Adjustable Campulleys

 

yup i got that e-mail...ditto w/ the

 

ha! 2.2L stroker with 13:1 pistons, That would be interesting

 

Those look unreal. What does the s2000 use to rotate the cams, is it a belt or a chain or what?
gmoore

 

Its a chain, thus the more toothy gears. I'd like to see a fully toda built engine (stroked, ITB, header VTEC killer cams) and see what it puts down.

Looks like they're confirming that the only way to make any significant NA power with the F20 is to go hardcore and ditch the ECU in favor id a full EMS

-J

 

just a stupid question, but would you have to run race gas with that high compression of a piston on the s2000 engine?

 

Yes. 12.8:1 is the limit for pump gas on Hondas depending on climate.

I want to see some numbers from all of those parts.

 

im sure there are dynos of the motor, but its prolly all motors used for racing and no one will most likley like to publish their dyno

once you add aem ems or another stand alone, that setup gets pricey

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegunderpressure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Those look unreal. What does the s2000 use to rotate the cams, is it a belt or a chain or what?
gmoore</TD></TR></TABLE>

timing chain, its more reliable at high rpm operation(it just makes more noise compared to a belt driven engine).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes. 12.8:1 is the limit for pump gas on Hondas depending on climate.

I want to see some numbers from all of those parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually I know a guy running 13:1 (he says a little higher around 13.3 or so after milling) on 93octane here in Texas, so no telling. It depends on tuning and octane available as well.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im sure there are dynos of the motor, but its prolly all motors used for racing and no one will most likley like to publish their dyno

once you add aem ems or another stand alone, that setup gets pricey</TD></TR></TABLE>

With alot of those parts you HAVE to go with a stand alone EMS. So you'd have to figure in the ~$1300 for the ems (AEM is cheapest alternative right now, I think???) anyway

$$$$$

 

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With alot of those parts you HAVE to go with a stand alone EMS. So you'd have to figure in the ~$1300 for the ems (AEM is cheapest alternative right now, I think???) anyway

$$$$$

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Maybe not necessarily. Toda has an ECU out don't they?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes. 12.8:1 is the limit for pump gas on Hondas depending on climate.

I want to see some numbers from all of those parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I mailed TODA last week. Here's their answer.:

"These parts are designed for racing in mind, hence 13.0 compression ratio. If the engine is built using Spec C camshafts, campullets, stroker kit, ITB's, exhaust manifold, and MOTEC M4 system well tuned, it is possible to produce 300hp++.

The pistons & ITB"s were really designed to be used in connection with our cams, so using them with stock cams defeats the purpose.

Best regards,
AKH Trading/TODA racing. "

 

300hp++
at the wheel or crank?

 

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I mailed TODA last week. Here's their answer.:

"These parts are designed for racing in mind, hence 13.0 compression ratio. If the engine is built using Spec C camshafts, campullets, stroker kit, ITB's, exhaust manifold, and MOTEC M4 system well tuned, it is possible to produce 300hp++.

The pistons & ITB"s were really designed to be used in connection with our cams, so using them with stock cams defeats the purpose.

Best regards,
AKH Trading/TODA racing. "
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thats what i wanted hear

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMS JT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Maybe not necessarily. Toda has an ECU out don't they?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i do not believe so... i only know of Mugen, Spoon, and i believe Powerhouse Amuse has one

 

Wow, I wish they would lower the price on the header....

 

Yack [p1] + PowerFC = Toda g00dness

 

If the Power FC were available for the S2000, which it's not.

 

Yes. 12.8:1 is the limit for pump gas on Hondas depending on climate

altitude does have a lot to do with the "limit" but mid to low 13's on 93 is doable as along as you have some form of standalone

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CXr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Yes. 12.8:1 is the limit for pump gas on Hondas depending on climate

altitude does have a lot to do with the "limit" but mid to low 13's on 93 is doable as along as you have some form of standalone</TD></TR></TABLE>I didn't say anything about altitude (climate, altitude, close enough). I wish we had 93 here, damn 91.