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Anyone got a Apexi VTEC Controller?

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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 12:36 PM
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Default Anyone got a Apexi VTEC Controller?

How much did you pay?
Whered you get?
How do you like ect ect...
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Anyone got a Apexi VTEC Controller? (Sabastian)

How much did you pay?
Whered you get?
How do you like ect ect...
300 shipped
group buy
well it has *its* moments
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 10:40 AM
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Unless you already have I/H/E/FPR done then you won't have any need for the V-AFC. Your fuel mixtures won't need correction from increased pressure and engaging the VTEC earlier won't be utilized as well from the stock setup.
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 10:45 AM
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Default Re: Anyone got a Apexi VTEC Controller? (VTEC Girl)

engaging the VTEC earlier won't be utilized as well from the stock setup.
um no, the x-over on the f22b1 is too high not enough rev range, trust me i know
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Anyone got a Apexi VTEC Controller? (SOHCkordVTEC)

Doesn't Hondata say lowering the VTEC engagement point with the VAFC and stock ECU a BAD thing?
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Anyone got a Apexi VTEC Controller? (H22power)

not that im aware of
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 12:58 PM
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Here it is man... from http://www.hondata.com...
"The Hondata method of setting the VTEC point is better than any other piggyback computer. Why? Hondas have two fuel and two ignition maps (***see the tech section****). With add on VTEC controllers, the camshaft is forced to switch while running on the wrong fueling and ignition tables. This can cause fuel to be as far as 10% out and ignition to be retarded up to 6 degrees. Some VTEC controllers allow a coarse correction for fuelling, none allow correction for ignition advance. The best method is to switch the maps at the same time the camshaft is changed. This is how Hondata modified ecus function."
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 01:01 PM
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true, but my distributor is pretty well advanced, that was going to be my next course of action i wonder how much their stage 4 is ?
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Anyone got a Apexi VTEC Controller? (Sabastian)

Hmm can you really even feel the vtec? Isn't it like EX vtec in a civic. If you get an H22 the vtec controller might be worth considering. 22a
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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 07:26 AM
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If I got the Hodata ECU (Stage 2) piggyback that would allow myself to remove the rev limiter and engage the VTEC sooner which from what I understand will give me a larger rev range with VTEC engaged. Has anyone used this unit on an Accord? I'm almost ready to get a used V-AFC from a friend from work. Let me know what you think guys!!
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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 07:28 AM
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yes you can feel the vtec earlier, u certainly cant feel crap at the stock point
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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 07:40 AM
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You deffinately don't want to consistanly rev/shift any higher than the stock fuel cut with stock internals.
What's up with your H22 VTEC Girl?
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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 07:52 AM
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Ive got I/H/E all on the way there in ups hands on there way to the door
actually the intake i already got i have ordered a

DC 4-2-1 Stainless
Greddy Ex

Im working on getting some kamikaze headers but for right now i sided with the dc's cuase i got a killer deal on the brand new.
from a reliable friend so its better than the stock ive also order a msd6al from work and it should come in tonite or tommorow.
what did you mean by FPR?
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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 08:07 AM
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FPR = fuel pressure riser.
The logic is it adds more fuel to the combustion mix to compensate for the lean mixture caused by the extra air I/H/E gives.
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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 09:33 AM
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Fuel Pressure Regulator
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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 11:05 AM
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[Modified by Sabastian, 7:55 PM 8/29/2001]
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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 04:28 PM
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does lowering the VTEC threshold yield more power on F22s?

the answer is Hell YES.

i have all the proof from dyno graphs of my car when it was tuned... i've had the VTEC point lowered from 4500 to 3500 for over 2 years, with no problems. there was speculation that upon VTEC engagement, there would be too much stress on the oil pump to produce enough oil pressure, but this has proved to not by the case. between 3500-4500rpm, i gained 15-20hp at the wheels.

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Old Aug 31, 2001 | 10:49 AM
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Hey Dunreit. Can you post the dyno charts and mods done at the time please. I would love to see the end result of your work on the F22 motor. Or at least just post the max HP produced with mods and point of VTEC engagement. Thanks bunches!!
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