the issue with my breaks are, When I step on the brake pedal, it feels spongy it doesn't get hard. I bleed all wheels and it still feels that way. What could be the issue? The breaks work not as sharp as it should be though.

 

do u have a leak anywhere? or maybe the MC has an internal leak and the pistol doesnt stop depressing.

 

No there is no leaking anywhere. Normally when you press the brakes it will get hard mine just keep going down with alittle tension to it. Should I bleed the MC? Would it help?

 

Sounds like a MC internal leak...Does the pedal get hard with the eng shut off?

 

Yes it does get hard with the engine off.

 

Back in Feb. this year, my '96 lx had a similar problem. It got worse when you were in stop-n-go traffic.
The pedal would go nearly to the floor and felt very spongy.

Installed a new M/C and its been great ever since!

Chuck

 

I'll install a new one then.

 

yes...a new one is best...go w/ a new oem (nissin?) if possible.

No rebuilts for the brake-mc.

 

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One thing that you can check is to see if the pins that the calipers slide on are free and not stuck. The condition you are describing is common with stuck slider pins.

Another thing to check is to make sure the pads actually slide in the shims they are in. I just bought a 1994 Accord wagon and the shims were so clogged with brake residue that the pads had to be literally pried out of the shims. I took the shims off ... took a wire brush and cleaned on the caliper where they sat ... took the shims to a glass beading machine and cleaned them thoroughly. I then put new pads on the car and put some "moly" grease on the contact points of the pads and now I have a hard pedal again.

It is not always the master cylinder ... as some people say. The calipers have to slide and the pads can not be bound in the calipers of you will get a "spongy" pedal.

Try checking those things out first. I am NOT saying that you may not need a master cylinder ... but you may find that you do not.

Keep us posted.

 

master cylinder, and possibly reallllly expanded brake lines, but in either case, I'd replace the MC and the brake lines with SS lines.

- Nathan

 

if you pump the brakes, does the pedal get hard for a moment and then lose its pressure/hardness after you continue stepping on it?

that was my problem, internal MC leak, replacing hte MC works... btw i have the part no for it from hparts.com for $75 or so... saves you $25 from buying from majestic honda. I gotta look it up this weekend thou.