b16a1 just shut off tonight coming home!!!!!!

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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The story goes on saturday night it started pouring and got some gas at a gas sation. well as i was leaving they had the gas mounds, i guess where they put the gas in, pretty high but couldn't tell if was going around them and i ended up and slamin into one or two and scraping the bottom part of my car. I'm not even dropped ( b16a 90 crx si )! so i stoped at another gas station to see the dammage and i pulled the intake off cause i don't have the plastic bottom cause it ripped off. I noticed the the oil pan had pretty big dent in it. So i drove home last night I heard squeeking from the engine kinda around the head and tonight it just shut off without shaking or rattle, it just kinda stutered a little like when i tried to accelerate and just shut off! Didn't seem like it was turning at all when i tried to turn it on. i looked on the intake filter and the tip chrome piece had hole in it like if it cracked when i slamed into the mound. So now i'm wonderin did water get sucked up or plastic piece ( water i think it hydro lock right at that moment not like 4 days later) or the oil pan pickup got damaged. any ideas??????????????????
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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My guess is the pickup was not able to suck oil well because the bottom of the pan was against the hole, and you starved the thing for oil. Time to start looking for a shortblock to replace your bottom end. Well, possibly. Pull it apart before you go shopping. It could jsut be that the rotor came loose in the distributor!
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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well i just got this motor for 800, and can't afford to get a block. but what would go wrong if the pick up is broken ? and any more ideas be great.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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same thing happened to me... it was my distributor the bearing seized causing the TB to jump a couple teeth (because it held the cam in place). For about a week before i heard the squeeking too, then boom it was toast.
P.S. If you are interested i have a B16 dizzy with a good bearing... it just needs a new coil (or ignitor)... its yours for 55 shipped... if thats the problem.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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my guess is it is the rotor in the distributor. it has happened to me and two of my friends here in colorado. they have a tendency to do that.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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i dont think its that... could be... but when that happened to me it backfired like mad and there was flames shooting out the tailpipe...
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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good info do that firsthing in the morning, thanks for the help and welcome any more.
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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bump for b16a1
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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well i took a look and the up signs on my cams are not pointing the same direction and i'm 95% sure they always did, so it might be the bearing of the dizzy is broken. I tried turnin it on and a poof sound out the intake and took it off and open the throttle and white smoke came out. so now wit that info anybody got any more ideas?
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Pulle the distributor after marking where it was. Take off the cap, and check everything out, including trying to spin it by hand. If it's difficult, the bearings are probably shot. Also check the rotor. Make sire it's screwed down tight.
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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yeah that sounds like the prob i have to go to work in a bit so i'm being doing this tomorrow and see whats up, i hope its just that and nothing else is wrong espicially the block. Any body have an idea about the white smoke ( wasn't a lot just kinda like fume).
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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does the intake manifold smell like unburnt gas? if so that means u arent getting the right ammount of spark, which would cause it to backfire. If somethin happened to ur dizzy this would b the case.
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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I really did not read the hole post, but I did read where you said you did not have enough money for another block. Not sure what you consider a lot of money but, the b16 blocks go for like 150 sometimes in the classifieds.
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 01:39 PM
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yes actually it did smell like unspent gas ( was like pure white) and 90blackcrx i'm just paying school, monthly bills and started a new job so i can get the money just matter of time saving up. So if i have to looks like round 3 on another block lol.
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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well tomorrow maybe i get a chance to take off my dizz. But here are some pics of whats the damage
i'll post more if get stuck along the way, but still open to any ideas
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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i doubt its the oil pickup. i've seen oilpans dented WAY worse than that and they still get enough oil to the engine. its probably some other problem.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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Yeah, that doesn't look bad at all... SOund like the brick and the engine dying are unrelated...

Pull the distributor cap already!
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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if you see the my first two pics, you'll notice the first one on the left the "up" sign and the second one does not show that sign. they used to be in same position and now they are off so i think its the intake cam that got stuck.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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its the dizzy
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 11:28 AM
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pull the pan off and see what is going on in there if the pick up is damaged then there you go get a new pick up I even have a couple laying around I will help you out just pay for the shipping and its your also see if there is any holes in the pan cause you could have ran it out of oil.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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your timing belt skipped a few teeth... as i told you before this EXACT situation happened to me before... I'll will bet that the bearing in your dizzy has gone bad and held the cam in place causing the Timing belt to jump...
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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yup you were right crxboy, i just took the dizzy off and its stuck so bad bearing, so i guess i'll take you up on that offer, so after i put on the dizzy what did you do to make everything run right?
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Now you have to reclock the cams to the correct timing... its kind of a pain in the ***... and throw on a working dizzy on there and it should start right up... hopefully it you didn't bend any valves... you should be fine, so just set the cam timing and slap on a working dizzy and it should fire right up.
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