Can u i use the B16 JDM harness if i cut a hole in my firewall? i know it wont reach to the ecu 'home' but it would save alot of time and trouble

 

Sorry man but that's one of the dumbest things i've ever heard. The stock harness plugs right in, and if you have dx it's not that hard, just have to switch around like 6 wires. Search on it.

 

yeah i know its dumb i was just wonderin in anyone had done it. my friend did this with a celica swap he had.

 

No. Why would you? I mean, that's like driving backwards down the freeway when you're already late for work... The further you go, the more trouble it causes down the road.

I'm soooo deep.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VashTheStampede &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No. Why would you? I mean, that's like driving backwards down the freeway when you're already late for work... The further you go, the more trouble it causes down the road.

I'm soooo deep.</TD></TR></TABLE>

easier no wiring plug and play...idk just something i want to see if it was possible, thank you for your 'deepness'

 

It can't happen and here is why.
You would not only need a complete uncut JDM B16 wiring harness, but also a complete uncut CRX SiR interior harness. The engine harness DOES NOT plug right into your car. the US CRX was not equipped for VTEC and t is not wired for that.

People have done the DX to Si wiring harness change over, but it requires ALL the wires inside the car and engine bay. Do you have a complete CRX SiR wiring harness? I mean the car not just the engine. do you have the CRX SiR cluster? Do you want you HAV to work? Do you have power windows? Power folding mirrors?.
You would have so many wires to decide how to connect I don't even want to begin to imagine how long it would take to sort it all out. More trouble than it's worth.

 

hmmm im just curious because i have a STD hatch already mpfi wired so i just need to add 4 wires ...correct?

note: im also getting the hasport wiring convesion harness

 

If you already have the MPFI part done, then all you need is four wires.
I would not pay HAsport for that! That's ridiculous.

Do a search, there are T O N S of websites that explain how to wire VTEC.

 

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I would not pay HAsport for that! That's ridiculous.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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yeah i have seached but me being the lazy bastard i am wanted to see if the jdm harness would work, plug and play is better then rewiring. Although it is only 4 wires thank you for the help spaceballs

 

all you need is your old wire harness(so dont break it)and the vtec wire harness from hasport.com or anywhere else you can find it...if you want to create your own harness out of the jdm..i got an extra jdm b16 wire harness if you want it..i wouldnt suggest that tho

 

Hasport conversion is what I used... it's EASY!

 

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std model?

 

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std model?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if your Std. is converted to MPFI then it is basically an Si, so you would buy the hasport vtec subharness for an Si. don't even consider using the JDM harness. just plain won't work, or if you really wanted it to, it would be a *HUGE* PITA. I just converted my Std. from DPFI to MPFI, then to OBD1. Wiring wasn't that bad. if i can do it, so can you.

 

well the b16a1 is obd0 ...how would i convert to obd1...advantages?

 

lol... I think we're just confusing you... sorry.

Anyway, you'll need to convert your STD to MPFI.... you'll need some parts, and an injector resistor box off of an Si or an HF. This will make it virtually an Si wiring harness.

With this, you can go ahead and connect HAsports subharness to the unused plugs on the B16, route these wires through the firewall, and connect them to your new PW0 or PR3 ecu (the one that came with the swap). All you have to do is insert/splice these 4 wires, and you're done.

Converting to OBD1 is more for emissions/compliance, and it's not necessary (About 80% of us didn't do it). But I guess it does have its merits (for other swaps down the line... like a B18C5.)

Anyway, just search for how to convert to MPFI, then buy the HAsport subharness (you should really buy your swap from http://www.hmotorsonline.com since they sell hasport mounts and wires for a discount with the complete package).

Wire that up, and you're good to go.

The only thing the B16 harness is good for is extra wires, and maybe extra connectors if you break one. Good luck man.

 

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Anyway, you'll need to convert your STD to MPFI.... you'll need some parts, and an injector resistor box off of an Si or an HF. This will make it virtually an Si wiring harness.

With this, you can go ahead and connect HAsports subharness to the unused plugs on the B16, route these wires through the firewall, and connect them to your new PW0 or PR3 ecu (the one that came with the swap). All you have to do is insert/splice these 4 wires, and you're done.

Converting to OBD1 is more for emissions/compliance, and it's not necessary (About 80% of us didn't do it). But I guess it does have its merits (for other swaps down the line... like a B18C5.)

Anyway, just search for how to convert to MPFI, then buy the HAsport subharness (you should really buy your swap from http://www.hmotorsonline.com since they sell hasport mounts and wires for a discount with the complete package).

Wire that up, and you're good to go.

The only thing the B16 harness is good for is extra wires, and maybe extra connectors if you break one. Good luck man.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i already did my mpfi so i have no worries now...another question while i have the mic, when u pulled your motor u didnt have to take the dash off did you...u just disconnected the harness from the engine and lifted the pos sohc motor out, correct i have a friend telling me that is should leave the harness attached and take out the harness with the engine...which means i will have to take apart my dash as the wiring harness splits as it goes in the firewall, towards the steering wheel and to the ecu. thank alot for the help !

 

no, you just disconnect the engine harness from the shock tower plugs that are part of the intermediate harness that goes in the car. the intermediate harness stays where it's at, just the engine harness comes out with the motor when you put in your b-series swap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YumVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, you just disconnect the engine harness from the shock tower plugs that are part of the intermediate harness that goes in the car. the intermediate harness stays where it's at, just the engine harness comes out with the motor when you put in your b-series swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

awesome...now when i called to get a price quote at hmotorsonline..he said he would throw in free brakes..now if this includes just the disks i cant use them right? but if it has everything brake, capilary? (The thing that push's the brake pads on the disk) will it just bolt on?

 

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awesome...now when i called to get a price quote at hmotorsonline..he said he would throw in free brakes..now if this includes just the disks i cant use them right? but if it has everything brake, capilary? (The thing that push's the brake pads on the disk) will it just bolt on? </TD></TR></TABLE>

he's probably talking about including the whole knuckle/hub/rotor/caliper assembly. if the swap you are getting is out of a JDM EF or DA then the whole assembly will just bolt up, which is a good thing because the axles you will use with the b16 swap won't work in your stock civic hubs (i believe).