Ok, so all of these "JDM" companies such as Mr. Alex, J's racing, etc. are selling these "C pillar bars." Obviously it is just like a strut bar but on the C pillar, I am interested if any of you guys are using this bar or if you have experimented with such a bar. I am thinking that it is another BLING BLING mod. Also would a rollbar/cage completely eliminate any need for this bar? For example if a car has a rollbar, would a C pillar bar have ANY positive effect on chassis rigidity on top of the added stiffness created by the rollbar/cage?

BTW, here's a pic of what I'm talking about.

 

The simple answer to your question is...how many (seemingly unlimited budget) race teams have a C-pillar bar in their cars?

 

mmm

well I have a question involving that C-Pillar and the roll cage

if I got a 4 point roll cage + c-pillar, could I use the c pillar to tie down the harnesses?

 

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If you get a 4-point roll BAR, you should get one with a harness bar included. The c-pillar bars are not designed to hold a harness and would likely bend in a serious accident. Also, the roll bar's harness bar is closer to your seat, so you don't have a long run of harness back to the c-pillars. The shorter the harness the less it stretches.

 

if it attached to the c-pillar higher up you could hang clothes on it. where it is now they would get all wrinkled. pretty useless if you ask me. check out the old folks heading for fla. in their crown vics for a proper implementation

joel

 

LOL i used my custom upper upper strut bar for hanging clothes on my long trips from norcal to socal. BLING FACTOR. May help but in a tiny tiny way.

 

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That was all I can think of the value for this C-pillar bar other than of course as a money generator for people who can't sell enough legitimate performance parts.

Note that is has sperical bearings so there is no strength or resistance should the body rack or twist. It would resist one C-pillar coming closer but parallel to the other C-pillar but chances of that happening are about nil.

Unless you need an extra place to store clothes hangers, pass on this gimmick.

 

It would make a decent camera mount. But that is about it.

 

My thoughts are that it does make a great cam mount......yes it is a bling factor and as almost everything you put on a car it has some function....if its worth it probably not, looks good in my opnion and yes I know function over fashion...I'd rock it......

 

funny, looks real dumbass to me. eye of the beholder i suppose...

 

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I miss having a rollbar in the daily driver for this purpose

 

I'm sporting the EMRACING pillar bar on a DC. Difference. yeah. is it phenomenal. probably not . .but a difference nonetheless. less creaking . .things of that sort.

This subject has come up a thousand times. Roll Cage or C-Pillar?
All it simply does is stiffent he chassis. just like a strut brace. nothing more. nothing less. Is there stress at those points? i've heard of two peeps who have bent their j's racing pillar bars after autcross events.

my final verdict---&gt;

but to each his own

 

i don't really understand the 'c pillar VS. rollbar/cage' question

they're designed to do 2 completely different things.

 

ricers have been so misled by the damn import market and we have to sift thru this crap. ppl who want to "stiffen" their chassis are the same ppl contemplating the difference between a strut bar and a sway bar.

 

These bars have been around for a long time. The only difference is that they used to be called camera mount bars. As Stage One mentioned it's a handy place to mount your camera but that's about it.

 

i have the bar from stable energies that goes across the c-pillar. it doesn't do anything for rigidity, but does provide a nice place to mount the harness shoulder straps. this is NOT recommended for track events where you're wearing the harness for safety. but for autox, i wear the harness just to keep me in my seat so i can steer with the wheel, rather than brace myself against it.

it would also make a good spot to mount a camera, but, alas, i don't have a video camera...




cheers,
phil