Is it B16 from 2000 civic si or other years.. any more details?

will gsr transmission with change of final gear equal to itr?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it B16 from 2000 civic si or other years.. any more details?
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i believe 99-00 si are same ratios as itr minus lsd

 

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i believe 99-00 si are same ratios as itr minus lsd</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

cool, thanks

what about gsr? - will that be the same if i replace final gear?

 

gsr has some funny gears. 1-2 are.... long, pretty awful imo. i believe 3-4-5 are also different than the ITR gears.

FWIW - 4-5 GSR are the same as 4-5 JDM ITR, which are LONGER than USDM ITR 4-5.

Perfect tranny would be 98 USDM ITR with 4.785 or 4.929, IMO, because, again IMO, the 4-5 in the JDM R tranny suck, too long, they just don't feel right with the quick 1-2-3 gears.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gsr has some funny gears. 1-2 are.... long, pretty awful imo. i believe 3-4-5 are also different than the ITR gears.

FWIW - 4-5 GSR are the same as 4-5 JDM ITR, which are LONGER than USDM ITR 4-5.

Perfect tranny would be 98 USDM ITR with 4.785 or 4.929, IMO, because, again IMO, the 4-5 in the JDM R tranny suck, too long, they just don't feel right with the quick 1-2-3 gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm.. in that case i guess i'll just stick looking for itr and si transmission.. thanks

 

Or just get an LS tranny, get an LSD and boost the hell out of it to make use of the really long gears!!!

Chris - who by 'boost the hell out of it' means double zygs boost!!

 

i remember IAS opening up 4-5 99-00 Si trannies and found that ALL but one had a 4.28 FD instead of the 4.4

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
FWIW - 4-5 GSR are the same as 4-5 JDM ITR, which are LONGER than USDM ITR 4-5.

Perfect tranny would be 98 USDM ITR with 4.785 or 4.929, IMO, because, again IMO, the 4-5 in the JDM R tranny suck, too long, they just don't feel right with the quick 1-2-3 gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

only the 98+ spec JDM ITR tranny is like this. the 95.5-97 JDM ITR trannies are the same as USDM ITR trannies.

 

actually most turbo`d hondas still prefer the shorter geared trannies.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or just get an LS tranny, get an LSD and boost the hell out of it to make use of the really long gears!!!

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Yes, my mistake. Thanks jonas.

I meant to say 98+usdm/96 spec JDM ITR + 4.785 or ATS FD would be ideal.

97-98, 00-01 usdm = 96 spec JDM tranny
98 + jdm = 4.785 final drive, gsr 4-5 gears.


Modified by Chris N at 1:33 PM 9/26/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually most turbo`d hondas still prefer the shorter geared trannies.

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Not if you got 2+bar of boost...

Chris - who notes that Clayton was making great use of the LS tranny in his R at expo... although shorter R gears would have been MUCH nicer.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gsr has some funny gears. 1-2 are.... long, pretty awful imo. i believe 3-4-5 are also different than the ITR gears.

FWIW - 4-5 GSR are the same as 4-5 JDM ITR, which are LONGER than USDM ITR 4-5.

Perfect tranny would be 98 USDM ITR with 4.785 or 4.929, IMO, because, again IMO, the 4-5 in the JDM R tranny suck, too long, they just don't feel right with the quick 1-2-3 gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that really explains why my car blows once I hit 4th....does anyone know all the ratios for the JDM ITR tranny?

 

http://ff-squad.com/Bgears.htm

1st column is 98 + jdm R, 3rd column is 96 spec jdm/97+ usdm R

Check column four, gears 4 and 5, and compare to column 1... longer then 96 jdm/97+ usdm.


Modified by Chris N at 1:34 PM 9/26/2003

 

Now can I just swap USDM 4th?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jonas &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i remember IAS opening up 4-5 99-00 Si trannies and found that ALL but one had a 4.28 FD instead of the 4.4</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm...extremely interesting. Any thoughts about this? Were the 4.28's all from a particular year?

 

Joe:
You might as well get an ITR tranny with a swapped JDM

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or just get an LS tranny, get an LSD and boost the hell out of it to make use of the really long gears!!!

Chris - who by 'boost the hell out of it' means double zygs boost!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the reason i won't even get gsr gears, ls would really suck.. short gearing plus light flywheel really helps out with boosting..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://ff-squad.com/Bgears.htm

1st column is 98 + jdm R, 3rd column is 96 spec jdm/98+ usdm R

Check column four, gears 4 and 5, and compare to column 1... longer then 96 jdm/98+ usdm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahh.. thats a good link..

YS1 from 92 integra will not match right?

 

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You might as well get an ITR tranny with a swapped JDM </TD></TR></TABLE>

why though, I already have a JDM ITR tranny....can't i just order the honda part # for US 4th?

 

You could but if REALLY wanted better umph in all gears. Replace the 5th gear too.

 

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I understand that, but I think it would just be a bit too much for highway cruising w/ the USDM ITR 5th and JDM FD

 

sorry to thread jack..but maybe you guys might be able to help..

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=623899

 

GSR tranny's are nothing compared to ITR Tranny's. The ITR is so much smarter than the GSR its funny.

 

I didn't know the 97 usdm tranny was different than the 98+ usdm tranny? Where does the 97 usdm tranny fit in then?