I have searched around and talked with a few people recently

how much power can be made from a good 3" intake, custom intake manifold (str or wutever) cam gears, header (smsp or equivelant) tuned with hondata by a good tuner

add some 310 or 440cc injectors for fun

210+whp/170ish wtq pretty easy?


yeah ive searched, but just trying to get more feedback

 

damm NOOBS and these what if post

haha just kidding Bob!

yeah id say that you can do it:

cause There are some crazy guys in here with soem fast h22's the power is there, just have to unleash the beast

 

You probably won't need the 440's with that "mild" setup. Stockers should be good for ~220whp.

I'd say around 190's whp, 200 if you're lucky. The stock cams will run out of breath around 7800, if not sooner. The only reason I say upper 190's is because of the Hondata...otherwise, 190 would be a blessing w/o it.

 

hmm i thought you're supposed to be able to hit 200 whp with an intake, SMSP, carsound, and exhaust, no problem...

 

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hehee well Bob and I know we dont have to worry bout the stock cams


so its good to hear

 

yeah, right. smsp is good but not that good. you would come close if you had a jdm h22, but with a usdm h22, there's no way.

 

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I have seen dynos of a usdm h22 wiht intake, fpr, smsp header and open exhaust hit over 200

 

jeff652 dynoed his jdm h22a with ITR 3" AEM and RSR cat back exhaust (stock jdm header and car) at 177whp. so figure add a good header, high flow cat and intake manifold/throttle body and hondata.. i think 185-190 should be possible

 

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hehee well Bob and I know we dont have to worry bout the stock cams

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Care to share?...

 

well for the cams, we have some cams available but they havent really been tested. we know the cam profiles work great on the b stuff, but not sure how good they will be on the h

we do have springs and retainers available right now though for the h.

 

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do some research before you speak. the sms header on coreys car did 205.3 whp.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=578303

I will also be doing a comparison between my dc 4-2-1 and the sms header when i receive it

 

This question is a little off topic
but i was wanting to know if you guys knew anybody
who has put down over 200+Ftlbs of trq in a NA b or h series engine

 

damint, dont tempt me to hit 200wtq

i think if you did
3" intake
rlz intake manifold
rlz custom P&P head with valve job
custom ef-1 cams
ef-1 sprigns/retainers
cam gears
kick *** header designed around the setup
cp pistons at 12:0 cr
carrillo rods, acl bearings
sleave it to 2.3 or 2.4, i would have to do the math to see what would be best
some other trick rocker arm stuff and a few other tricks that arent general knowledge. mighte be able to hit 200tq

i dont have the patience for figure out all the crap to hit that though. i think it could be done though

all brought together by hondata tuned by bubba at trackmasters, i

 

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i think if you did
3" intake
rlz intake manifold
rlz custom P&P head with valve job
custom ef-1 cams
ef-1 sprigns/retainers
cam gears
kick *** header designed around the setup
cp pistons at 12:0 cr
carrillo rods, acl bearings
sleave it to 2.3 or 2.4, i would have to do the math to see what would be best
some other trick rocker arm stuff and a few other tricks that arent general knowledge. mighte be able to hit 200tq

i dont have the patience for figure out all the crap to hit that though. i think it could be done though

all brought together by hondata tuned by bubba at trackmasters, i </TD></TR></TABLE>


I am sure if anyone can.. Ef-1 and bubba at trackmasters can do it, plus you also have the ef-1 rods available for h22 now. they are listed as turbo rods but i am sure they wouldnt have a problem on a NA motor!

 

Care to share?...

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we do have springs and retainers available right now though for the h.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I ll soon know, with my whole H22 head getting PnP and done with Ef 1 items, i know it wont be anything less then awesome!

If Ef-1 can make their cams out dyno/perform Skunk2's and Jun 3's , then i dont see why they wont do the same on the H series motor:

maybe ppl relate the Type R motor and the H as being cousin motors and being fairly close.. just the Type Arrrr has bout another 2k on its price tag

 

I made 185hp with 156tq with hotshot header, comptech iceman and p72 hondata with type s base program. Try contacting user emoBB1, he made 230hp and 185?tq on his street car I think that is the most I ever seen on a street h series.

 

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KTeller8 has been a member for 639 days.

Bob-DC2 has been a member for 1274 days.

and who is the newb now?

I have almost been here twice as long as you buddy

 

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KTeller8 has been a member for 639 days.

Bob-DC2 has been a member for 1274 days.

and who is the newb now?

I have almost been here twice as long as you buddy </TD></TR></TABLE>


uhh this is my new name... or huhhhh i used to just read and now i post ? LoL

 

Hey man sorry I didn't get back at ya. First week of school and I'm living in chaos ;-).

200? I'll be hitting that with my H23 VTEC setup ;-). Certianly not an H22 with just bolt ons though ;-).

I'll try to drop you a line tomorrow (sat).

:-)
Jeff

 

hehe, this has been my secret project goal for awhile, 200 whp without changing cams/internals, we'll see how it goes.

right now all i have is an intake, ignition, fuel mods and my nitrous system.

I am waiting for the SMSP header, then install a 2.5" custom exhaust.

after that, i will either tune with vafc II or hondata and get a baseline dyno. I have a USDM H22a1 so it will be harder for me to hit 200 as is, and my motor has 120k. Just wishful thinking, but we'll see what happens.

I am waiting for ef-1 cams to develop something for the H series, and im also waiting for.....the skunk2 manifold (ahahahaha) but after i dyno that I think i will try some headwork.

possible? input?

also, why do people go with a 3" intake? will it really be so much "badder" then my 2.75? heh

 

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I am waiting for ef-1 cams to develop something for the H series, and im also waiting for.....the skunk2 manifold (ahahahaha) but after i dyno that I think i will try some headwork.
also, why do people go with a 3" intake? will it really be so much "badder" then my 2.75? heh</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ef-1 right now can do you some nice regrinds.. fairly cheap, not like "new" cams but then again way better then those stock ones you have and wont kill your wallet:

also the three inch intake, allows for more air:
you ask if its better then 2.75,

is a 2.5 that much better then 2.25" exhaust? yes and its only .25 difference

 

I thought we were talking about 200 ftlbs of wheel torque not 200 wheel horse power?