notice a bit of similar styling between the new GTi and our beloved EP3?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by peterZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">notice a bit of similar styling between the new GTi and our beloved EP3?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Gee I dunno'. Four wheels. Hatchback. Kinda' looks like a focus to me.

Seriously, I think it really is the styling trend de' jour for all these hatchbacks to take on a similar shape. We see it in the similarities of so many designs these days, whether they be hatch, coupe or sedan.

 

ugh that's haggard.

 

That thing isnt that great looking. Im dissapointed

 

it looks like it has subaru head lights

 

whats the specs on these?
i know that the 03 SE GTI is surprisingly not quick. i thought i would be though

 

doesnt look like ep3 at all.
subrau headlights..

 

yes looks like any other hatch back mini van.....

 

That's just a concept. If everything falls through properly, it should have a 2.0T with around at least 200 HP.

 

won't be available in US until MY 2005.

 

VW STILL CAN'T GET IT RIGHT.

 

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Sounds like that will be a good time to trade in my EP, if the USDM iteration of the GTI holds true to these pictures.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaBoy2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VW STILL CAN'T GET IT RIGHT.
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and like Honda got it right with their new bloated american trendy econos.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of suspension do Golfs have? Double A arms like the old EG and DC that everybody loves, or is it McPherson struts?

Is the gearbox a cable shifter?

I really have no idea how VW compare to our Hondas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

MKIV VW's are macpherson strut front/solid beam rear axle. Actually pretty outdated stuff but a rigid chassis nonetheless. The only production version of the MKIV that handles at all is the 337/20th AE versions of the GTI which have revised f/r anti roll bars, Audi TT struts all around (with 1 inch lower spring), Audi TT brakes all around, and the Audi TT's cable shifted 6 spd. The 5 spd cars are also cable shifted.

VW promises that the MKV (which will be 4 wheel independent suspension) will capture the raw feel of the original GTI with lots more power and refinement rolled into one. Lets see what happens when the car hits our shores...

 

i have already seen it at the IAA i live in germany just to mention----

it doesnt look like the ep3... you people gotta see our european hatchbacks ohh man you guys would cry if youd see what you dont get.....

i drive a CTR though

 

I think it looks pretty sick, too bad it's a vw

 

not too shabby look'en..

 

i wonder if the r32 will come in the new style as well...

&lt;-- doesnt really care

 

VW still ownz. If I were to get any euro car, it would either be a Golf, Jetta or Passat. Unless I had like 250k then I'd get a Carrera GT, GT2, or Vanquish (I can only dream). Anyhow, this new Golf is great looking, it's a newer gen hatch, like the EP3, so they're gonna look similar. I don't know, that's my theory anyways, most new cars have some similarities between them. Hopefully, it will be more powerful, mod'able and can launch before and after upgrades. If they give us that and keep it priced right, we'll have a bunch of GTi vs EP3 threads and such. Good times. to competition.