i am having a problem getting the car to idle right does any one have these cam that wouldnt mind helping a fellow R owner?

 

What else do you have done besides the cams?

Toda B's = stock idle..... When tuned.

 

More details required. If you have no type of engine management other than the stock ecu, then that's what you will have.

 

If you have nothing but a stock ecu, play around with your ignition timing until you can get it to idle. I wouldn't get on it until you tune it. If you have a vafc, lean it out 10 percent at idle. If thats not enough, go to 20. If thats not enough, keep trying to lean it out more. Give that a try.

 

I run 'D's in my Civic motor, and the idle is a tricky thing to tune even with Hondata. If you are on a stock or even a chipped ECU, you are going to have problems. Get some programmable engine management and get it tuned by a professional.

 

lean out the idle with your fuel controller a bit..see if that helps. i dropped the fuel percetage about 10 percent at idle then played with the idle screw a bit....purrs like a kitten

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't D's have the same size primary lobes as the B's?

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't D's have the same size primary lobes as the B's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. That was my point. The idle tuning issues with 'B's are the same as 'D's. So all of the info is pertinent.

 

i have the Toda spec B cams, toda cam gears, toda springs, skunk retainers, port and polish, mugen head gasket. Apex i VAFC, MSD.

The car wont hold a strong idle, i messed with the timing and i am at -26% on the vafc at idle!

if the cam gears are at zero and the timing is correct, how should the car Idle?


Thanks for everyones help!

 

keep leaning it out @1000rpm, i'm at -30

 

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if the cam gears are at zero and the timing is correct, how should the car Idle?

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cam gears at zero... car should idle damn near stock.

i suggest you ditch the VAFC and upgrade to a better form of fuel managment. VAFC gave me nothing but problems with my B's.... it was livable... but damn annoying. Take out at least -35 at 1000 RPM, and advance the intake cam. you may still other issues to deal with.

D

 

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D</TD></TR></TABLE>

like the damn car dying out when you come to red light

 

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You're supposed to press the clutch pedal, Marc

-Matt, whos just the whole day tinkering with the car and towing it to an exhaust place tomorrow so his ears wont bleed...


I need to get a shirt that says "I'd rather be driving"

 

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yes.... with the VAFC i had a fine idle... however, when the motor was decelerating to idle, when it was hot out, it wouldn't catch the idle... as if the IACV wasn't acting fast enough. PowerFC has fixed said problem for myself.

D

 

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-50 here, and idle screw almost backed out all the way. 400 miles per tank and 190+whp. stock itr motor otherwise (with bolt ons). VAFC works for me.

 

What D said

 

where is every ones cam timing at?

at zero the car should idle fine, with idle -30%(about)?

 

did you have any other problems before you installed the cams?

 

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PowerFC has fixed said problem for myself.

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thats next on my lists when i put in the CTRs...

 

no other problems.... till the cams....anyway..
i got the idle right ...finally...timming was off...stupid me!

next ... the car feels weak till about 6000rpm...
now i need to know what to advance and what to retard?

i advanced the intake a bit and the car wouldnt start!
every things back to ZERO!