Well, I was getting ready to buy some oil filters from manhonda.com and I see this notice:
'Honda has recently discontinued the Oil filter part number 15400-P0H-305. As of September 7th, the Oil filter will be the same for all Accord, Civic, CR-V, CRX,Del Sol, Element, Odyssey, Pilot, and Prelude models. Honda has a new design that is smaller and more efficient' http://www.manhonda.com/ap/ind...66183

So all honda's are now moving to the smaller filters found in the newer generation models?

 

When I went to the local Acura dealer last month, they showed me a memo very much like that one, and sold me the new filter. Anybody know of any performance differences?

 

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So all honda's are now moving to the smaller filters found in the newer generation models?
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Yup, Honda and Acura vehicles.

 

i still like the Hamp's and mike m has a big sale in the Sponsor forum..

i dont know, but would a smaller filter help in any oil pressure related cars?


Modified by KTeller8 at 9:44 AM 9/17/2003

 

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i have heard that it raised oil pressure aprox. 8 psi for b-series motors... that's all i've hard though *shurgs*

-Paul

 

interesting... that means my filter wrench is now a cool paperweight

 

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Hand tight, no filter wrench

 

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Hand tight, no filter wrench </TD></TR></TABLE>
hehe.. although sometimes I've noticed that hand tight going in doesn't mean hand tight going out.... filter wrench is backup for pain/suffering when I'm feeling too strong putting the filter on, and too weak when I'm taking it out..

 

Get part #07HAA-PJ70100 wrench, it will work on almost all Honda and Acura vehicles now

 

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hehe.. although sometimes I've noticed that hand tight going in doesn't mean hand tight going out.... filter wrench is backup for pain/suffering when I'm feeling too strong putting the filter on, and too weak when I'm taking it out.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sand paper

haha, man im cheap.... or stupid.... cheap. No broke.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bender &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I went to the local Acura dealer last month, they showed me a memo very much like that one, and sold me the new filter. Anybody know of any performance differences? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I am using the new filter as of right now, and I haven't noticied any difference.

I even made them double check because the part number didn't look right to me..

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hehe.. although sometimes I've noticed that hand tight going in doesn't mean hand tight going out.... filter wrench is backup for pain/suffering when I'm feeling too strong putting the filter on, and too weak when I'm taking it out.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Same here

 

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hehe.. although sometimes I've noticed that hand tight going in doesn't mean hand tight going out.... filter wrench is backup for pain/suffering when I'm feeling too strong putting the filter on, and too weak when I'm taking it out.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

tell me about it !! , with out that tool it can be a pain

 

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tell me about it !! , with out that tool it can be a pain </TD></TR></TABLE>
Man you guys are a bunch of pansies!

6'0, 130.... I have no trouble

 

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Maybe you're not tightening it enough.

 

I've been using the filter from the SOHC 01+ civics for 3 oil changes now. Vtec is a lot more "popish" when it engages. Supposedly, these filter add 5-7 lbs of oil pressure too.

 

smaller = better

I've two of the older ones if anyone wants them.

$10 shipped.

 

Why is smaller better? Explain.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why is smaller better? Explain.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Faster oil flow, less filtration though

 

Weird: I purchased a few filters from Acura last week. In really small writing they said "Fram" on them!

 

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primarily the increased pressure.

 

if you use a K-series oil filter you'll have better oil press., so let them discontinue them

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Weird: I purchased a few filters from Acura last week. In really small writing they said "Fram" on them! </TD></TR></TABLE>

But seriously after all these threads bashing the oem filter (rightfully so) I wonder why everybody still uses these filters? I walked into walmart and found frams for $2.50, half off honda prices. These Honda filters are really cheap quality except the one that came off my car when I first got it new.

 

I just used Fram for the first (and last time). When I took the Fram oil filter off, the filter gasket separated from the filter (I didn't realize it) and I screwed the new filter on top of the old gasket, and then dumped many qts of Mobil 1 in the filler hole and out of where the filter wasn't mating correctly to the engine, and on to my driveway.

Piece of crap.

 

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Faster oil flow, less filtration though </TD></TR></TABLE>

Less filtration could be bad.
faster oil flow is not as important as higher pressure.

I was hoping for scientific proof.
i.e., proof of increased pressure, better flow, etc.

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primarily the increased pressure.
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It sounds like this would be true, but is it really true?
Meaning, has anyone tested this?

To the guy who buys Fram: Bad BAD oil filter. I've used them before. Do some reading on oil filters, like on the oildrop site. Not good, might as well you OEM filters, not fram.

Chris - who used OEM, then Mobil 1, now K&N, all at highly discounted prices, since 10-15$ per filter is retarded.

 

Comparison on pressure drop between filters...
http://theoildrop.server101.co...00513

Nice posts on internal views of many filters...
http://theoildrop.server101.co...00723

I dunno if it makes a difference in the real world or not but the Frams and Hondas are just really cheap I can get the Bosch for the same price as Hondas and it looks nicer.