just wondering if the gears are short in this tranny? how many mph does it go to in 2nd gear at 8000 rpm and so on? is the gearing close to the j1 s1 or ys1? let me know THANKS.

 

no, the gears in the y1 are pretty long. Overall shorty than an LS, but longer than the j1/s1.

 

My SiR Y1 runs about 5000-rpm at 80-mph.

Pretty short gears, imo.

 

i thought the y1 has shorter gear ratios and the s1 has longer gear ratios.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybridize &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My SiR Y1 runs about 5000-rpm at 80-mph.

Pretty short gears, imo.</TD></TR></TABLE> yups just like my y1. my first tranny was an s1 and that was a lot better than my y1 tranny right now.

 

my tranny went out right now im using an ls one sucks!!! how much diff. would it make in 1/4 mile???

 

I believe it goes a lil somethign like this from shortest to longest... S1, J1, Y1. I had a S1 in my old crx and man that was a badass trans as long as you never had to go on the highway. Light to light and at the strip that thing ripped. Now in my hatch I have a J1 and the final drive is still way to short IMO. 4000rpm @ 70mph sux, especially since I moved to Florida and the speed limit is 70!!! Its still a good trans, however I'm looking into a ls final drive for my frequent excursions on I-95.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pooptooth &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe it goes a lil somethign like this from shortest to longest... S1, J1, Y1. I had a S1 in my old crx and man that was a badass trans as long as you never had to go on the highway. Light to light and at the strip that thing ripped. Now in my hatch I have a J1 and the final drive is still way to short IMO. 4000rpm @ 70mph sux, especially since I moved to Florida and the speed limit is 70!!! Its still a good trans, however I'm looking into a ls final drive for my frequent excursions on I-95.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup, S1 is a great trans. J1/S1 have the same ratios though. They're pretty much the same transmission. Just so you know, you want an LS fifth gear, NOT the final drive. The final drive would screw up your nice gearing. Check out this post that my brother made about the swap:

Bah, I'm an idiot; wrong link!!! HERE: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=555929


Modified by Mr. S at 4:15 PM 9/15/2003

 

Thanks MR. S, thats what i meant...

 

i think the overall consensus is that the ys1 is the ideal tranny. not too long not too short. and it has better options IMO. u can add many different kinds of LSD's and gearsets. Rebuildable with easier to get parts also which is a major .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fobtions &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the overall consensus is that the ys1 is the ideal tranny. not too long not too short. and it has better options IMO. u can add many different kinds of LSD's and gearsets. Rebuildable with easier to get parts also which is a major .</TD></TR></TABLE>

the gsr ys1 is the ideal tranny because it is THE shortest cable b series tranny and the parts. It all depends what you want. You like long gears, get an LS (usdm a1/s1/ys1). You want short gearing, get the gsr ys1 or jdm s1/j1. The y1 is kinda in the middle, but more toward the long side, since it has the 4.26 (or whatever) FD like an LS.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricodemus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

4000rpm @ 70mph sux, especially since I moved to Florida and the speed limit is 70!!! .</TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont know about your trans I have a y1 with lsd and at 70 im at 4500-4700 rpm. it really sux gas

 

remember there are 2 S1 trannies. The us spec S1 out of the inttegra is long as ****, the JDM S1 out of the xsi is very short. s1 and j1 really short, y1 and ys1 about the same. You need the newer clutch disk for the ys1 since it is 92-93 tranny. They say the ys1 is built stronger like the new hydro trannies.

 

ok my first gear YS1 Xsi USA 92-93 GSR Tranny Goes 40MPH first Gear.

Second I am think 60+ didn't really pay attention!!!

YS1 Xsi 92-93 GSR GETS

 

I have a Y1 on my B16. 3200 RPM at 60 mph.

1st - 40
2nd - 60
3rd - 90
4th - 120
5th - ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Patch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a Y1 on my B16. 3200 RPM at 60 mph.

1st - 40
2nd - 60
3rd - 90
4th - 120
5th - ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what I remember from my y1. There is still some misinformation in this thread. Maybe this will help.




Remember that there is a jdm s1 (short) and a usdm s1 from the rs/gs/ls (long).
Also, there are 2 ys1's, one from the jdm xsi/rsi/usdm gsr and the other is in 92-93 integra ls/rs/gs.

I personally have a y1 (w/lsd) in my civic and a ys1 (long) in my stock 93 integra ls-s.

 

Y1 195/55/15
RPM 1 2 3 4 5

500 3 4 6 7 9
600 3 5 7 9 11
700 4 6 8 10 13
800 4 6 9 12 15
900 5 7 10 13 17
1000 5 8 12 15 19
1100 6 9 13 16 21
1200 6 10 14 18 23
1300 7 10 15 19 24
1400 7 11 16 21 26
1500 8 12 17 22 28
1600 8 13 18 24 30
1700 9 14 20 25 32
1800 9 14 21 27 34
1900 10 15 22 28 36
2000 10 16 23 30 38
2100 11 17 24 31 39
2200 11 18 25 33 41
2300 12 18 27 34 43
2400 12 19 28 36 45
2500 13 20 29 37 47
2600 13 21 30 39 49
2700 14 22 31 40 51
2800 14 22 32 42 53
2900 15 23 33 43 54
3000 15 24 35 44 56
3100 16 25 36 46 58
3200 17 25 37 47 60
3300 17 26 38 49 62
3400 18 27 39 50 64
3500 18 28 40 52 66
3600 19 29 42 53 68
3700 19 29 43 55 70
3800 20 30 44 56 71
3900 20 31 45 58 73
4000 21 32 46 59 75
4100 21 33 47 61 77
4200 22 33 48 62 79
4300 22 34 50 64 81
4400 23 35 51 65 83
4500 23 36 52 67 85
4600 24 37 53 68 86
4700 24 37 54 70 88
4800 25 38 55 71 90
4900 25 39 57 73 92
5000 26 40 58 74 94
5100 26 41 59 76 96
5200 27 41 60 77 98
5300 27 42 61 79 100
5400 28 43 62 80 101
5500 28 44 64 82 103
5600 29 45 65 83 105
5700 29 45 66 84 107
5800 30 46 67 86 109
5900 30 47 68 87 111
6000 31 48 69 89 113
6100 32 49 70 90 115
6200 32 49 72 92 117
6300 33 50 73 93 118
6400 33 51 74 95 120
6500 34 52 75 96 122
6600 34 53 76 98 124
6700 35 53 77 99 126
6800 35 54 79 101 128
6900 36 55 80 102 130
7000 36 56 81 104 132
7100 37 57 82 105 133
7200 37 57 83 107 135
7300 38 58 84 108 137
7400 38 59 85 110 139
7500 39 60 87 111 141
7600 39 61 88 113 143
7700 40 61 89 114 145
7800 40 62 90 116 147
7900 41 63 91 117 148
8000 41 64 92 119 150
8100 42 65 94 120 152
8200 42 65 95 122 154

S1/J1 195/55/15
RPM 1 2 3 4 5

500 2 4 5 7 9
600 3 5 7 9 11
700 3 5 8 10 13
800 4 6 9 11 15
900 4 7 10 13 17
1000 5 8 11 14 19
1100 5 8 12 16 21
1200 6 9 13 17 22
1300 6 10 14 19 24
1400 7 11 15 20 26
1500 7 11 16 21 28
1600 8 12 17 23 30
1700 8 13 18 24 32
1800 9 14 20 26 34
1900 9 14 21 27 36
2000 10 15 22 29 37
2100 10 16 23 30 39
2200 11 17 24 32 41
2300 11 17 25 33 43
2400 12 18 26 34 45
2500 12 19 27 36 47
2600 13 20 28 37 49
2700 13 20 29 39 50
2800 14 21 30 40 52
2900 14 22 32 42 54
3000 15 23 33 43 56
3100 15 23 34 44 58
3200 16 24 35 46 60
3300 16 25 36 47 62
3400 17 26 37 49 64
3500 17 26 38 50 65
3600 18 27 39 52 67
3700 18 28 40 53 69
3800 19 29 41 54 71
3900 19 29 42 56 73
4000 20 30 43 57 75
4100 20 31 45 59 77
4200 21 32 46 60 79
4300 21 32 47 62 80
4400 22 33 48 63 82
4500 22 34 49 64 84
4600 23 35 50 66 86
4700 23 35 51 67 88
4800 24 36 52 69 90
4900 24 37 53 70 92
5000 25 38 54 72 93
5100 25 38 55 73 95
5200 26 39 57 74 97
5300 26 40 58 76 99
5400 27 41 59 77 101
5500 27 41 60 79 103
5600 27 42 61 80 105
5700 28 43 62 82 107
5800 28 44 63 83 108
5900 29 44 64 84 110
6000 29 45 65 86 112
6100 30 46 66 87 114
6200 30 47 67 89 116
6300 31 47 68 90 118
6400 31 48 70 92 120
6500 32 49 71 93 122
6600 32 50 72 95 123
6700 33 50 73 96 125
6800 33 51 74 97 127
6900 34 52 75 99 129
7000 34 53 76 100 131
7100 35 53 77 102 133
7200 35 54 78 103 135
7300 36 55 79 105 136
7400 36 56 80 106 138
7500 37 56 82 107 140
7600 37 57 83 109 142
7700 38 58 84 110 144
7800 38 59 85 112 146
7900 39 59 86 113 148
8000 39 60 87 115 150
8100 40 61 88 116 151
8200 40 62 89 117 153

Sorry so Long

 

i like the y1, short

 

y1 is cool, hate freeway though. well im not sure if mine is off or some others cause going 80 in 5th is about 4400-4500 which i read off my VAFC n stock tach.

 

I have the Y1 lsd trani. I"ll tell you as soon as I figure out the last of my issue in the swap. I have rough idle and code 21. V-tec so I've been told. Working out the bugs now.

 

I love driving over 3k rpm!!!

 

I feel that the y1 is superior to the j1/s1. They all have close gear ratios, except that the y1 first gear starts out slightly "taller", due to the final drive.
I can honestly say that first gear in the j1/si trannies is just worthless. Its so damn low its rediculous. I used to start out in 2nd gear most of the time daily driving.
With a y1 you get the same close ratio shifting, but it just starts higher.
Im currently running a y1 1-4th gears with an LS 5th, in an LS casing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rioninja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I feel that the y1 is superior to the j1/s1. They all have close gear ratios, except that the y1 first gear starts out slightly "taller", due to the final drive.
I can honestly say that first gear in the j1/si trannies is just worthless. Its so damn low its rediculous. I used to start out in 2nd gear most of the time daily driving.
With a y1 you get the same close ratio shifting, but it just starts higher.
Im currently running a y1 1-4th gears with an LS 5th, in an LS casing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Possibly, but you have to love the S1/J1's gearing at the track. My B16 is basically stock and can use all the gearing help it can get. Still, you're right; first gear is pretty much useless on these transmissions. Ah well, they're fun.

 

all i have to say is that when i had my s1 tranny, my car sure felt alot faster than with my y1 tranny. i hav a question by the way, are s1 tranny's known for breaking? mine broke with a big crack on the side of the casing

 

hey guys thanks on the great info, yeah i currently have a y1 lsd transmission but i was wondering if there is any way of swapping the y1 lsd onto a s1 or j1 tranny? what about final drive sets for the y1?