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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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I recently dropped in an ITR motor in my Ek , but ever since I dropped it in, it has been letting out white smoke. It usually does it in the mornings , so I figured its the condensation or whatever, but it also does it when I get on the gas. I checked the oil and the radiator fluid for any exchange of the two and everything is fine. The only thing I have left to think of is doing a compression check, but if I have a minor head gasket leak, will I be able to detect it?
Another ? I have is besides the headgasket what else could be the problem ?
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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Would having the timing to far advanced cause this problem ?
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Are you losing antifreeze?
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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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You are probably running to rich but, if you really want to know what kind of shape your engine is in do a leak down test or even inject air into your cylinders and check to see if there are bubbles coming up in your rad.
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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My anti freeze is sparkling clean and the level is the same. Ive been checking it everyday. As far as running rich , what would cause me to run rich. I have my stock fuel pump and at the moment only have a full header back 2 1/2 exhaust with no catalytic.
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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how many miles on the motor...honda oil rings suck ***...i have a LS with type r pistons with about 15000 miles on it and it burns oil at full throttle above 4000 rpm...if i ever rebuild again i will use aftermarket oil rings for sure
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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Does it happen more when you are at full throttle? There are a few this that can cause a rich situation like if you have an adjustable fpr it could be set to high or your o2 sensor could be getting worn out. It could also be because you don't have a cat. I would just do the leak down test to be sure.
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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simple test read your sparkplugs
could be your valve stem seals or something
simple as your valve cover o rings that go around the sparkplugs

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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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how would I determine if it is my valve stem seals or the o rings by reading the plugs . I'm not to familiar what it is that im looking at the plugs . thanks
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with no catalytic. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There is your answer, also what ECU are you running? What size injectors are on the car?

-Jeff C.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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Ive had other cars with test pipes and havnt had this smoke problem, the car is using stock ITR injectors and a chipped P28
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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I'd try:

-Do a compression test on all cylinders on the motor
-check sparkplugs

it might be valve seals for example, but i'm not too sure
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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I have a friends who has a 93 CX with the same swap and the exact same problems. A week ago he had a leakdown at a local shop (Foreign performacne) and they said the rings were shot.
Try a leakdown and post resurts
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOONfdEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive had other cars with test pipes and havnt had this smoke problem, the car is using stock ITR injectors and a chipped P28</TD></TR></TABLE>

chipped P28 eh? mugen program? if so, that's probably the reason why.....my car puffs out smoke too and its more than likely because of the Mugen progggy. try putting a stock P30 program or stock P28 ecu in & see if it still smokes.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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hmm. I know that i have a chipped P28 but i dunno if it is the mugen program, Jason K. did the chip for me , im gonna talk to him and let him know
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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what is the reason the mugen prog. does this ?? thanks
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOONfdEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm. I know that i have a chipped P28 but i dunno if it is the mugen program, Jason K. did the chip for me , im gonna talk to him and let him know </TD></TR></TABLE>

Jason K? as in Jason Katman? as in me? lol...
I'm pretty sure I put a mugen program on your ecu.
The muggy program may blow smoke because of excessive fuel dumping (run rich) ala race program, thats how the program makes its power with engine, by dumping fuel. But like I said, try running a stock ecu in your car to see if the ecu really is causing your car to puff la or not.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOONfdEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how would I determine if it is my valve stem seals or the o rings by reading the plugs . I'm not to familiar what it is that im looking at the plugs . thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

one way to check the valve seals is to take off your intake mani and look into the ports..and see if there is oil sitting on the back of the vlave (around where the valve and head mate at the seat) usually after running for a while turn your car off then check...worked for me..hope that helps...good luck keep us posted.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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White smoke is usually a sign of a blown head gasket but if your coolent levels no dropping then i dunno
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