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Engine Swap or head and cam package? Which is better?

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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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Default Engine Swap or head and cam package? Which is better?

I have a 2002 Accord--

I've seen Gude's head and camshaft package that promises up to 58 hp. Any thoughts?

Obivously, this is less complicated than an Engine swap.

I just want a responsive daily driver, not a street racer.


http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm

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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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H series for you!
gude is not very accurate with their dyno, cough making number up, cough

swap it for the dohc
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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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i've been thinkin about this lately too... except i was considering a complete build-up but would like to learn more.

H22 is respectable and a great idea, so is boost.. those topics i've read about to death but i'm kinda interested what i'll be able to realize just by building up the engine i have.

anyone got info on building up the f23 (for NA)
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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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haha i've been a member for a year and 3 days and i'm only tiral user status
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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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thats just the AVATAR(pic) u can change that...you are a memeber. look under ur name
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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not too many parts out there that i can think of off the top of my head. i would say turbo it if you want to keep your stock engine. and tune it obviously. or you could spend that money and get yourself an H22 then the possibilities are endless from there.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 03:26 AM
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Default Re: Engine Swap or head and cam package? Which is better? (hondanoel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondanoel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 2002 Accord--

I've seen Gude's head and camshaft package that promises up to 58 hp. Any thoughts?

Obivously, this is less complicated than an Engine swap.

I just want a responsive daily driver, not a street racer.


http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm

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honestly sell your car and buy something faster. Gude sucks as mentioned above and an H22 swap to a new car like yours is just dumb, when you could trade your car in for a used lude. your other option would be turbo, if you don't want to sell your car.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 04:36 AM
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Deym...

My Accord is a slug but the ride kinda nice-- I was just wondering if there was any way of keeping the ride but make it more responsive.

From what you're saying, maybe I should just trade it in for a used WRX or STI(and get it over with).

What about rear drive?
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 04:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondanoel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
From what you're saying, maybe I should just trade it in for a used WRX or STI(and get it over with).

What about rear drive?
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exactly, although a Sti may be out of your price range. my next car will mostly likley be a wrx. if your car was older it would be more feasible do major work, but since it's so new it's much wiser to sell it for something faster.

rear drive is nice, but it's not a great winter car unless you have beamer or something with traction control. not many cars in the 25K price range are rear drive unless you go for a domestic or a used european car.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 04:54 AM
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My only concern is the ride quality-- has you tried a WRX? Is the ride really that stiff(from what I heard)? And the handling(oversteer understeer neutral)?

We have the Jackie Robinson parkway that's only 1 1/2 car wide and suicide curves that was designed by an engineer who committed suicide. Not that I race, but I need car that can manage this atrocity with aplomb.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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Default Re: Engine Swap or head and cam package? Which is better? (hondanoel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondanoel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My only concern is the ride quality-- has you tried a WRX? Is the ride really that stiff(from what I heard)? And the handling(oversteer understeer neutral)?
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stiff compared to what? comparing a stock WRX to a z06, the ride is mush

but comparing a stock WRX to a stock Accord, the WRX handles on rails lol

the handling at the limit on a stock WRX with stock tires is understeer, it doesnt take much to get rid of it though, the WRX aftermarket is excellent
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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a stock wrx will out handle a stock a accord any day of the week. the 04 models have slightly stiffer struts, but they are still designed for rally racing so they still don't ride very stiff. most will say the suspension is too soft.a wrx will handle real world roads much at fast speeds better than a rsx.
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