am searchin for a few questions bout these headers. if i'm runnin the stock ITR exhasut, will i have to cut off any of it to make it fit, i dont want to touch the stock exhast right now jus in case down the road somethin comes up. also, hows it sound with just an aem intake

 

no need to mess with exhaust if you dont want to.. just get 2.5" cat - smsp makes them, and good to go.

 

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golden

 

sweet thanks for the help, hows it sound with stock exhaust and aem cold air?

 

you will not hear the header or your stock exhaust...
all you will hear is the AEM and nothing else

 

i have toda header with smsp cat and stock exhaust; my intake is stock with resonator removed (sort've like a comptech ice box). you still hear the intake end of things much more than the exhaust although there is definite change in exhaust note with vtec. the whole deal sounds like a stock car.

 

sounds stock huh?? i have aem cold air in there now and i love how it sounds, i want to keep that sound, so i wonder if it would stay the same, i dont wanna degrade the sound, what u think?

 

i think your car will sound much the same as it does now; maybe a little louder upon vtec. anyway, screw the sound because the horsepower increase is what you're after and toda definitely owns!

 

you need to try out the newer V2 CAI system I have that w/ Greddy Header w/ thermal reserch exhaust it sounds awsome.!

 

will i lose horsepower because its goin through the stock exhaust?? like i wont get the full potential??

 

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stock exhaust shouldn't be a restriction for just intake/header.. lets say 175whp.. if you decide to push for 200whp, then its a good idea to get larger diameter exhaust.

 

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you will make more power with the toda header versus stock. you will likely make even more power adding an improved exhaust, but you yourself said you wanted to keep the stock exhaust.

 

Toda Header =

 

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Yeah but it comes with fake "racing look springs"....

 

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Yes it does, that is the reason my freind sold his.... "to each his own"

 

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I was shocked when I first learned that - Toda was one of the last manufacturers from which I expected to see rice (even if it is "race-rice").

 

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I'm not hating... they make good power. I just that was an interesting fact. So much for function over form

 

what are you guys talkin bout when u say it comes with fake "racing look springs" jeez, thank god for some of you guys or we would all be lost. any ideas on how much more hp i can make using toda wit stock exhaust the with stock headers exhasut, jus wanna know if its gonna be worth $980 buckaroos

 

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The springs are visible on the two sets of "slip-joints". If they were functional, they would be holding the header together and would allow for disassembly of the header. However, apparently the joints are welded, so the springs are purely cosmetic (in other words, "race-rice).

 

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Check this link out to compare dynos of different types and brands of headers on an ITR.

http://www.automotiveperforman....html

 

ahh i see it now. what would u guys think about runnin toda headers through a test pipe into stock exhaust?? lol crazy idea or do-able?

 

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sound will be a bit quiet ! i had just aem cai and later on i put mugen 2.25 header i did notice that mid range was smoother also the sound wasnt as loud as before.