Will i have a problem with this setup??? or should i just get some better rotors.. IMO a rotor is a rotor correct?

This is for daily driving.. right now my stock pads are faded to hell and my rotors are warped.

Will i see GREAT improvement with cobalt and autozone rotors?

and should i get some stainless steel brake lines and run some Motul RBF 600?

 

rotors are rotors. get cheap ones that fit and use them.

SS lines = not worth the hassle.
Motul = not worth the $$ for street use.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rotors are rotors. get cheap ones that fit and use them.

SS lines = not worth the hassle.
Motul = not worth the $$ for street use.

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Thanks for being honest

Autozone rotors it is then 20 bucks a pop wahoo

 

Im running Axxis Ultimates + ATE Superbl00 + Stock rotors with 43K.

Nice improvement over stock

 

I went with the Cobalt blank rotors and have been very happy, I also installed some SS lines not long ago and like the way the brakes now feel - not a stiffer pedal really, but easier to modulate and 'feel' the brakes.

The Motul 600 is probably overkill for the street, even if you are very agressive. I use Motul 5.1 for the street and autox and it works great.

From the Motul site:

"Motul Dot 5.1 brake fluid

LONG LIFE 100% synthetic fluid for hydraulic actuated-brake and clutch systems.
DOT 5.1 NON-SILICONE BASE.
Fluidity specially designed for anti-locking brake systems.

LONG LIFE FORMULA : the high wet boiling point (185°c/365°F), superior to DOT 4 and DOT 3 fluids enables to use this product longer.
SPECIALLY DESIGNED TO ANTI-LOCKING BRAKE SYSTEM (ABS) : its viscosity (820 centipoises at -40°c / -40°F) lower than DOT 4 and DOT 3 brake fluids, allows MOTUL BRAKE FLUID DOT 5.1 an easier fluid circulation in micro-valves of anti-locking systems.
PERFECTLY NEUTRAL WITH SEALS USED IN BRAKING SYSTEMS. ANTI-CORROSION.

STANDARDS : FMVSS 116 DOT 5.1 NON SILICONE BASE & DOT 4 & DOT 3
SAE J 1703"

 

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I am on my 6th set of front rotors and need to get a new set soon.

I may get the cobalt rotors for street use b/c of the coated (non-friction) surfaces... but for $24.99 each the autozone units are nicey nice.

I have the axis ultimates on the back and OE pads on the front for street use. For track use I swap front rotors and pads for a more aggressive unit (DS3000/Cobalt VR's).

SS lines = nothing wrong with my rubber units now. after a few more years I may replace them.
fluid = ATE supa bloo is cheap and works jsut fine for hard track use (bleed after the weekend).

 

For brake fluid, you can also run Valvoline Fluid sold at most AutoZone, Pepboys, etc. They have high enough boiling point for most street, autoX and mild track usage. Best of all, they are price pretty cheap.

Also, I have a set of F/R Colbat GT-sport pads for sale if you're interested.

 

Looks like the rotors are $20.99 on Autozone's website

So Willard, your on your 6th set, how long do they last? Do they last through more than one trackday or do you pretty much plan on changing after each track weekend?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris93Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like the rotors are $20.99 on Autozone's website </TD></TR></TABLE>for the Legend units?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris93Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how long do they last?</TD></TR></TABLE>
My current set has been thru one set of DS3000 pads and is almost thru a set of Cobalt VR pads. (same rotor for both sets of pads).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris93Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do they last through more than one trackday or do you pretty much plan on changing after each track weekend? </TD></TR></TABLE>I would say 3 maybe 4 track weekends would be good. I don't use them on the street... only on track.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for the Legend units? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope, that's the ITR units, I thought the Legend rotors were too thick? Do you happen to know the part# on the Legend rotors?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't use them on the street... only on track.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Any particular reason you don't use these on the street?

 

SS lines and Motul are overkill for street driving, but IMO they are worth every penny on the track.

Street setup is OE F/R pads and track is Cobalt GT-R(VR) front and Cobalt GT-Sport rear. Both on OE rotors. I love the setup, extreme braking force once those VR pads heat up

My rotors seem to last about 6 events with OE calipers. If you get 2 or 4 piston calipers, 10-12 more likely.

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=181691

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris93Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any particular reason you don't use these on the street?</TD></TR></TABLE>
my track pads are not street friendly... the noise and lack of good cold stopping power = track use only.

 

ok let me get a price list.

Autozone rotors 25.99 x 4
Cobalt pads ??
Motul Dot 5.1 brake fluid ??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I have the axis ultimates on the back and OE pads on the front</TD></TR></TABLE>

am i reading this correctly?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">am i reading this correctly?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yup... for street use that is what I use.
for track I swap the fronts and drive.

the axxis units are a +1 over OE pads and work well enough for me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok let me get a price list.

Autozone rotors 25.99 x 4</TD></TR></TABLE>

Autozone rotors x 2.

Unless they started carrying the rear discs for ITRs. Didn't someone here post that NAPA actually carries the rears for at a fair price?

&lt;--- about to replace the OE fronts this weekend with Autozone rotors. The rears look barely worn.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Autozone rotors x 2.

Unless they started carrying the rear discs for ITRs. Didn't someone here post that NAPA actually carries the rears for at a fair price?

&lt;--- about to replace the OE fronts this weekend with Autozone rotors. The rears look barely worn.</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn they dont make rears

 

good info

I will be fussing with my brake set up soon as well

 

Autozone is the only option, unless you "NEED" two piece rotors.

 

AutoZone rotors are fine. i was going to do the same thing when my rotors didnt come in and had the cobalt GTR spec (front) and axxis ultimate rears, just sitting around. Andy said it was ok. so the choice is up to you.

 

Funny/Interesting aside on the topic of the OEM replacement Autozone rotors.

I will be picking up a set for backups for the upcoming Watkin's 2 day HPDE and I noticed 2 things when looking at their online site.

1) The name brand for the autozone rotors is "AIMCO"

& even more interesting

2) Stock replacements weigh 13.3 lbs but, the upgraded rotors (upgraded I don't know how other than $50. more per rotor and that they say they are "Directional" possibly slotted?) is 14.1 lbs... So their higher performance rotor weighs more? But, is likely missing some of it's surface? H'mmm...


Just an observation that I wondered if anyone else noticed.

 

what should i do about rear rotors?

should i get them resurfaced or just put the new pads on..

Resurfacing them would be a BITCH.. id have to take them off, go get them resurfaced, then put them back on.

 

are they worn?

if not... install new pads and drive

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are they worn?

if not... install new pads and drive</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, that depends.

If he's switching from OE pads to like Axxis Ultimates, then it's drive and go since the pads are about the same size.

Maybe it's just my set but the GT Sports I have in the back seems a tad smaller than OE/Axxis (i.e. top of the rotor is "rusting" and groved in addition the the bottom). If that's the case, I'd consider resurfacing or getting a new set of rotors if I decide to get different rear pads. Probably drive and go one more time on the rear rotors if I go get another set of GT Sports. That's if they're the same size again.

 

I will soon be switching to autozone rotors with axxis ultimates also.Just waiting on the pads.

steve