Now that i have your attention

My car will start... but the battery will not charge itself and it dies.. On the occassion i have a check engine light which is a code 20 which is electrical load dectector, defective circuit, or unplugged/defective sensor. I dont have my o2 censor in my header right now(obd1)

when i dont have a check engine light i will have the battery light which goes on and off all the time like the check engine light. is there something i should be looking for?

thanks

Ryan

 

Your fluid in your battery is 99 percent gone. Go fill it up. now.

 

and use distilled water only.

 

its a brand new battery though... cause i thought my battery was shot

 

hmm....you might want to check the fluid in the new battery too. It wouldn't hurt.

 

alright i will

 

Good title, maybe I should try it whenever I need help!

If you battery is not charging, your alternator might be dead!

 

u didnt set the battery on concrete did you.???????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u didnt set the battery on concrete did you.???????</TD></TR></TABLE>what would that do...

 

Kill it

My pops set my battery on the concrete the other night, now my batter died in about 5 seconds of trying to make its first crank with the new swap. Owell

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Kill it

My pops set my battery on the concrete the other night, now my batter died in about 5 seconds of trying to make its first crank with the new swap. Owell </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah you sat my battery on the ground one night while iw as working on the mr2... it no longer was with us.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fox297 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you battery is not charging, your alternator might be dead!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah take your alternator and get it tested, or with a multimeter hook it up to the alternator to see if it is producing 14 volts when the car is running.

 

check the alternator -&gt;hook up a dvom on the ouput lead.the fat a** wire coming off the alt. it should read 13.5v-14.5v.
check for parasitic draw-&gt;ign. off.hook up an ammeter in series with the bat. neg. cable and bat. post. if more than 2 amps something is draining your bat: a short, lightbulb on, etc.
that's it for now.

 

Is this a joke ala blinker fluid???

I've worked at gas stations for YEARS and they certainly never avoided putting batteries on the ground... be it asphalt or concrete...

Am I missing something?

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You guys are spreading LIES

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Battery Myth #2 Storing a battery on a concrete floor will discharge the battery.

There is not currently a strong reason for avoiding contact of a battery with a concrete floor. The battery's contact with the concrete should not create a problem with the material in today' s batteries. If the battery is not clean, but has a surface layer of acid or grime which is conductive, the battery can be expected to self-discharge more rapidly than if it was clean and dry. Many years ago, the batteries were constructed with a wooden case around a glass jar with the battery in it. Any moisture on the floor could cause the wood to swell and possibly fracture the glass, causing it to leak. Shortly after the introduction of "Hard Rubber" containers, which were somewhat porous and of a less than ideal design, there was a chance of current to be conducted through the container of a high carbon content if the moist concrete floor permitted the current to find an electrical ground. These are two of the older reasons for not storing batteries on a concrete floor. There is no reference to avoiding storage on concrete floors in the Battery Service Manual published by the BCI. Their suggestion is appropriate for the current state of the art batteries built by reputable battery manufacturers. For more information on storage, see the AutoTips Battery Storage Tips page.</TD></TR></TABLE>

From...

http://www.inct.net/~autotips/battmyth.htm

and...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dear Tom and Ray:



This business of batteries and concrete floors needs to be explained and put to rest. Years ago, everybody knew that you were never supposed to put a car battery on a concrete floor because it would be quickly ruined. That statement was absolutely true, but they weren't talking about the BATTERY being ruined, they were talking about the CONCRETE FLOOR! Batteries used to be "topped off" with water, which resulted in acid being spattered about. If you put one on a concrete floor without carefully washing it, the acid ate into the concrete, quickly ruining the floor. It didn't hurt the battery one bit, but people who misunderstood the advice and wanted to appear knowledgeable came up with all sorts of foolish explanations as to why the battery should be ruined. Even an acid-spattered battery will not leak its charge into the earth. There may be leakage across the terminals of a "top-post" battery, but that would be slight. So here's the story: If a battery is clean, you can safely put it on your concrete floor. If it's acid-spattered, put it on somebody else's concrete floor or stick a board under it. -- Clay

Ray: Clay, you sound so utterly convincing. If it were up to me, I'd buy your story lock, stock and barrel. But my brother says you're full of baloney.

Tom: The GFCA (Garage Floor Cleaners of America) may indeed have had a hand in keeping batteries off concrete floors. But the real concern WAS the batteries.

Ray: Thirty years ago or so, most battery casings were made of hard rubber. And because of the porosity of that material, battery acid would sometimes seep through the rubber and create a conductive path through the damp concrete, draining the battery.

Tom: But that can't happen today with plastic-cased batteries. That's because molded polypropylene (a k a plastic), is not porous at all.

Ray: So today, you can put your battery on a concrete floor for as long as you want. And here's the interesting thing, Clay. The cooler the temperature, the slower a battery's rate of discharge. And because concrete is often cooler than its surroundings, leaving a modern battery on a concrete floor might actually make it last LONGER</TD></TR></TABLE>

from...

http://cartalk.cars.com/Column....html

Mis-information is not needed here... a REALLY quick google search would've put any question of the validity of your comments to rest...

Seriously at least fact check before you go passing around second hand knowledge.
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*edit2*
I have never hammered ANYONE EVER on here (maybe once or twice as a joke...)..

But YOU GUYS

 

NonovUrbizniz

I can't believe people still think that about batteries.

I have set batteries on concrete and simultaneously used them to jump start my old car. If this were even remotely true the battery would have drained almost instantly...................but it didn't.

 

ok well i start my car. everything is fine i pull the battery. it gets sat on the ground for 2 days i put it back and its drained. say what you will. **** it.

 

If the fluid was leaking out it could still happen... but if your battery is sealed it woulnd't ever happen... it's insulated.

Did you check the fluid levels of the bat. before you determined it was "bad"?

 

ok it was never on the concrete so thats not my problem

i took it to my uncles race shop(he is a bad *** rally racer... just so you know) they used a volt meter on the battery and it was at 12 volts then we started the car and it started to drop a little around to like 11.9 so i am pretty sure thats its my alternator not charging my battery. i am picking up a new alternator tomorrow though. thanks for all your help

Ryan

 

stick it on a load tester... put about 190 amps on it..
and see if the voltage drops to &lt; 9.7v

then start working on other problems like electrical shorts..

 

through experience of my own also i wont put bateries on the floor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Noah ***** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok well i start my car. everything is fine i pull the battery. it gets sat on the ground for 2 days i put it back and its drained. say what you will. **** it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nonov.
thats my opinion, in no way is it false or hearsay. when you can prove to me (through many hours of testing).
that every time anyone sets a new bettery on the floor for awhile, nothing bad happens ill believe you and send you a box of cookies, until then A. dont believe everything you read by searching google, especially uncertain and unheard of websites that say "There is not currently a strong reason for avoiding contact of a battery with a concrete floor". or a car talk site which is also most likely the one guys opinion.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">through experience of my own also i wont put bateries on the floor.


nonov.
thats my opinion, in no way is it false or hearsay. when you can prove to me (through many hours of testing).

So YOUR OPINION is "many hours of testing"????

that every time anyone sets a new bettery on the floor for awhile, nothing bad happens ill believe you and send you a box of cookies, until then A. dont believe everything you read by searching google, especially uncertain and unheard of websites that say "There is not currently a strong reason for avoiding contact of a battery with a concrete floor". or a car talk site which is also most likely the one guys opinion.

Yeah those "car guys" have NO idea what they're talking about... they only have a nationally sindicated talk show dedicated to FIXING people problems over the phone... They also have a VERY reputable shop just outside of boston... THEY ARE EXPERTS.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

And As I've said... Not only did all 4 stations I've worked at NEVER avoid putting ANY batteries on the floor... the freaking interstate guy used to do the same... You are spouting off old info that WAS accurate at one point and is now completely outdated and irrelavent.

Oh so would you believe the link if it were to a battery manufacturer???

http://www.everstart-batteries...s.asp
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
"Modern lead-acid battery cases are sealed better, so external leakage causing discharge is no longer a problem.
Some people think storing a battery on a concrete floor will discharge it, but that is no longer the case. When storing a battery, keep it in a warm, dry place. With proper maintenance, your battery will stay in great condition."</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or how bout 2

http://www.interstatebatteries...k.htm
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Fact or Fiction

Well, is it true? Will a battery be damaged or discharged by letting it sit on concrete? NO!
</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are a ******** spreading mis-information.

 

alright you 2 retards that are fighting on my thread over the internet need to stop being gay...

i found out what the probem was, thanks for you help now you both need to get over who.

who cares who is right