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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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ok! i love gsr swaps i already have one in my civic, but as i sit in my car and hooked nitrous and a thought hit me why not buy CRX and put in another gsr and hit mid 13's. as i did so searching CRX's have cable clutches. i do all my own work so how hard is to this conversion cause i a black CRX SI for 200.00 from an old lady the car inside and out in perfect condition but the engine was dead so help me on this conversion are send me to a step buy step site.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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you ready? you can buy a clutch master cylinder for about 50 shipped and while you have the motor out drill the proper hole rin the fire wall to accomodate the master cyl . run some bendy hard line to the slave cyl and walla! it`s alot easier than it sounds but just research a little . its real simple i plan to do it soon on mine.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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cool!
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 06:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by biggdogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you ready? you can buy a clutch master cylinder for about 50 shipped and while you have the motor out drill the proper hole rin the fire wall to accomodate the master cyl . run some bendy hard line to the slave cyl and walla! it`s alot easier than it sounds but just research a little . its real simple i plan to do it soon on mine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
will the tranny side mount from the hydro tranny line up, or will you need to custom make one?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by biggdogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you ready? you can buy a clutch master cylinder for about 50 shipped and while you have the motor out drill the proper hole rin the fire wall to accomodate the master cyl . run some bendy hard line to the slave cyl and walla! it`s alot easier than it sounds but just research a little . its real simple i plan to do it soon on mine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Or an even easier way is to get a kit that makes the hydro tranny able to use the cable its an adapter plate that goes onto the hydro tranny so you can still use the stock cable. I know hasport was making one and someone on this board made one as well do a search in the archives and I am sure you will find what I am talking about.

*EDIT* heres the one where he made it. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=463077
also there were plenty of cable to hydro posts about the hasport and such in the archives.
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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yes the mounts are slightly diff on the hydro, and also if u dont wanna use hard line u might be able to get away with just steel braided, less bending well none, but the cost will probably be higher, also im not sure on this but im gonna say it anyways and u can search on it, i think the pedal sets are diff, not sure and my honda guru is asleep, hope i at least opened you to more options
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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do you think this can be done in a single weekend with the kit
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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vince: we have been waiting for hasport to release that kit for more than 4 months, i'm for one ready to make my crx hydro tranny capable. i took a look at where the master cylinder/main cylinder assembly will go, and i would like to see some pictures from people that have done it. it just looks too tight, but by no means impossible! if anyone has changed their crx/civic from cable to hydro, please post some pictures!
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ferio 95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok! i love gsr swaps i already have one in my civic, but as i sit in my car and hooked nitrous and a thought hit me why not buy CRX and put in another gsr and hit mid 13's. as i did so searching CRX's have cable clutches. i do all my own work so how hard is to this conversion cause i a black CRX SI for 200.00 from an old lady the car inside and out in perfect condition but the engine was dead so help me on this conversion are send me to a step buy step site.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Man... not to be an *** but please look over the written material before you post it. It's hard to understand your ?'s/ideas if they are all thrown together like this.

About the conversion, the hasport kit has been seen in a couple of mags. but it hasn't been released yet...
Can't wait for somebody to come up with one...
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joey1320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Can't wait for somebody to come up with one...</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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holy crap batman........ looks like the angle is off to me but seems that with minor changes could be a very possible application for myself. ive seen about 6 other designs just keep adding to my ideas..... after jy turbo setup is done im probably gonna need to solve the tranny issues that arise. good pic, of tranny mount and of cable mount
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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The cable appears to be taking quite a bend there....not good for the cable or the feel when u push the clutch in.
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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all you guys are always so quick to criticize. seems like everytime someone posts something they fabbed you guys come out and pick it apart, and point out how you would have done better. why don't some of you "online engineers" come up with something better then.
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RexB16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> why don't some of you "online engineers" come up with something better then. </TD></TR></TABLE>



I'm definitely awaiting the cable--&gt;hydro conversion... itr tranny here I come!
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RexB16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> why don't some of you "online engineers" come up with something better then. </TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHA, thank you

the peice i made is just fine with the sharp bend in the cable, its not kinked it still works just fine. And the angle looks off because of the rubber boot is not all the way seated
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smokey2.0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> if anyone has changed their crx/civic from cable to hydro, please post some pictures!</TD></TR></TABLE>
anyone? please!
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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tHIS oNE... that conversion kit looks sweet ... have you driven the car yet?
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crXBoy69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tHIS oNE... that conversion kit looks sweet ... have you driven the car yet?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope, some of the fabrication is still not done nor do i have axles for it yet.
and then i still gotta wire the bitch
I need a pr3 and obd1 p13 engine harness pinouts if anyone has any links
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RexB16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all you guys are always so quick to criticize. seems like everytime someone posts something they fabbed you guys come out and pick it apart, and point out how you would have done better. why don't some of you "online engineers" come up with something better then. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey calm down there buddy! Looking at the 2 posts above about the "Bend" in the cable.....I kept re-read it over and over and found no where of "picking it apart". Its great that people are fabbing up new ideas and such. If I were the one posting that set-up on here, I would like FEEDBACK, whether bad or good, to help me improve the product.

I think you should let the guy that posted his creation decide if the people on here were "BASHING" his ideas. I know if it were me, I'd appreciate the feedback. I'd rather have people look more "IN DEPTH" at my post, rather than saying...."COOL, that rocks, or " I would want FEEDBACK.

I was the first to post on the other thread about what I thought of the "bend" in the cable. It was by no means a "BASH"! I dont know if the other 2 people saw my post in the other thread and AGREED with me, or looked at it IN-DEPTH like me and came to the same conclusion. Anyway......here's my original post in the other thread. As you can see, I dont think he took it as a BASH.....its just putting our HONDA HEADS together. SHEEESCH! Is it too hard to carry an intelligent disscussion without someone jumping in and making pointless remarks?

HAND COMMAND WROTE:

"Looks good, but I can see why it may be too stiff. First of all, it seems to me like the clutch cable is being routed to sharply. Meaning its almost taking a 90 degree turn towards the clutch lever.

2nd, without the use of levers and pivot points, the ability to actuate the actual clutch release fork may be too difficult. Think about it......Look on a stock cable tranny set-up........the cable is attached to the cable release lever way far out for more leverage, than what is pictured here to actuate the HYDRO release fork......

Some food for thought.

I give you props for your efforts though"

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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 03:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tHIS oNE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

nope, some of the fabrication is still not done nor do i have axles for it yet.
and then i still gotta wire the bitch
I need a pr3 and obd1 p13 engine harness pinouts if anyone has any links</TD></TR></TABLE>

89 teg axles, 91 accord mid shaft. you have to convert the car to obd1 (http://www.hasport.com/Tech/Wring/Co...onOBD-OBD1.htm) p13 pinouts are the same as a gsr (http://tech2.hybridgarage.com/ecu.php?ecutype=p72_obd1) hope this helps
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 05:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22 ef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

89 teg axles, 91 accord mid shaft. you have to convert the car to obd1 (http://www.hasport.com/Tech/Wring/Co...onOBD-OBD1.htm) p13 pinouts are the same as a gsr (http://tech2.hybridgarage.com/ecu.php?ecutype=p72_obd1) hope this helps</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks man, i'm going to try those axles, but i dont know if they will work since the motor is most likely in a different spot than usual or at least yours, but i will check it out
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 05:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HandCommand &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If I were the one posting that set-up on here, I would like FEEDBACK, whether bad or good, to help me improve the product.

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Appreciate it Man,

I originally posted that because it seemed some were completly retarded to the fact nothing was available because HASPORT's kit had not come out.
how many other ideas were in that other thread? I love all the tube sock kids who can't depend on anything but bolt-on parts
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 06:46 AM
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this is a friend of mine

he had a custom mount made for the hydro trans. it is exact same placement as the hasport mount. itll be easier to use a stainless flexible line for the hydro conversion, thne u can run it where ever
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:55 AM
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We tried that design, but unfortunately the cable only lasted about a month. Having said that, I am not sure what choice you have. Our solution for the B-series hydro trannys will not bolt on to the H-series trannys. Although you could build something to hold the b-series hydro conversion in place and operate the H22A's hydraulic release arm.

Other than the steep cable angle, the problem with your design is that it lacks anything to take into account the difference in the ratio of movement between the cable tranny's and hydro tranny's release arm. I hope this comment helps you.


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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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i just got a phone call from hasport today, regarding their cable to hydro conversion kit. they told me that this kit is now available for purchase, and that the price for the kit and the tranny mount was $540.00 or so!
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