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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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i know its possible, but how? i heard a little myth that its really bad for your car, i dont see how it could be but is it true?
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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Default Re: remote start on manual car? (whiteinteg95)

I have heard thatr it is bad for your starter but I would assume it would be better for most people's engines because most people don't let their engines warm up. The starter can only work on manual cars with a hydralic tranny. I believe it activates the pump so that it like pushing in the clutch which allows the car to start???
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have heard thatr it is bad for your starter but I would assume it would be better for most people's engines because most people don't let their engines warm up. The starter can only work on manual cars with a hydralic tranny. I believe it activates the pump so that it like pushing in the clutch which allows the car to start???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope. It won't work with any manual unless you by-pass the clutch switch. Only thing is, if the car is in gear and you remote start it, it will start and drive away.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Default Re: remote start on manual car? (whiteinteg95)

Yes it possible but get oned designed for manual transmisson.

Its only bad when people try to wire a remote start not designed to work with a manual tranny. Reason is because it doesn't have all the safetly features built in that an alarm designed for a manual would.

It can be done tho but im not gonna be responsible for the car in your living room. lol.

If you do decide to get a remote start on your manual. Get alarm designed for manual period. Example Aladdin A2000 or similar.

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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotboi850 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you do decide to get a remote start on your manual. Get alarm designed for manual period. Example Aladdin A2000 or similar.

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Absolutely

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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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remote starts on manual trannys iss just dangerous. i cant tell you not to do it cause i have one, but i can tell you to think of the damage it can do. dont forget that you are responsible for any damages your car causes if left in gear. i have been installing for over 5 years now, and have installed very few starters on stick shift vehicles. i have also seen cars drive off too. just think twice before you get one installed.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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yeap.. i have one. My old manager had one in his old escort and it ended up in his parents house, no joke.

The only thing I can say is make a "fail safe" switch like a guy at the shop and I did. It's a hood pin from a DEI alarm system mounted to a solid L bracket that's used to ground the remote start's safey switch when it's out of first gear (IE&gt; button isn't being pushed in) so the car can start, and brakes the ground so the remote start won't start if it's in first gear. Granted if someone parked your car in any gear besides first it would start up and possibly start moving, but most times ppl park in either 1st or neutral
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 04:38 AM
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*sigh* a properly installed manual transmission remote starter, when used properly is just as safe as a automatic.

Who ever says it's it's illegal, post a link to some law site. I'd like to see some proof....
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Just buy the Aladdin or Lynx system and make your life easier.

The way it works is that... (it has to be done in this sequence) when you park your car and turn off the ignition, the engine will stay running, like a turbo timer. Then you open the door, get out and arm the system. The engine will turn off. As long as you never disarm the system from this point, you can remotely start your manual transmission vehicle.

What its doing is remembering that you've left it in neutral. If you'd left it in gear and turned off the ignition, the engine would've stalled and the alarm won't let you remote start it.

Simple solution.

I told the DEI guys about it in our annual training seminar and they were quite interested. I think they'll be releasing one really soon as the patents clear. Then again, the PME Aladdin and Lynx aren't even FCC approved so I don't know if they own patents on the design.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just buy the Aladdin or Lynx system and make your life easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did u guys even read what i posted earlier. Why go through all that trouble when u can buy an alarm designed to work with a manual tranny.

The reason why you see people with there cars taking off on them is probably because they <U>modded there remote start that wasn't intended for a manual tranny. </U>

Hey ScareyH22A Do You think we're the only ones who know what were talking about? I hope not.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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you guys are retarded...you really think if you leave it in gear and you start it up its just gonna drive away like james bond?? It will just bogg out. It might lurch forward a foot but its not gonna just drive away.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SixthGenCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys are retarded...you really think if you leave it in gear and you start it up its just gonna drive away like james bond?? It will just
bogg out. It might lurch forward a foot but its not gonna just drive away. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, *IT WILL* start up. I've demo'ed this to quite a few customers. With the EBrake on it doesn't start start (atleast not very fast) but the starter easily out-powers the parking brake when the car is in first gear. Remember, your starter has an assload of torque to it. And for those people who might have any habbit of parking in first w/o the ebrake on, the car will fire up and run at around 900 rpm's as the car drives away in first gear. Trust me, this *DOES* happen
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 05:07 AM
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Default Re: remote start on manual car? (ScareyH22A)

"I told the DEI guys about it in our annual training seminar and they were quite interested. I think they'll be releasing one really soon as the patents clear"

Autostart has had manual transmission starters and "Ready Mode" for over ten years... wake up guys

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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SixthGenCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys are retarded...you really think if you leave it in gear and you start it up its just gonna drive away like james bond?? It will just bogg out. It might lurch forward a foot but its not gonna just drive away. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly I have seen mine do it before
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 07:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SixthGenCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys are retarded...you really think if you leave it in gear and you start it up its just gonna drive away like james bond?? It will just bogg out. It might lurch forward a foot but its not gonna just drive away. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You are retarded. Are you basing this on pure speculation? Or do you have actual experience? Obviously, you don't know **** about this.

I came home drunk one night (this was a long time ago, in my integ, friend drove my car home for me) and he left it in gear. The e-brake was pulled all the way up. The next morning I had to go to work, I remote started the car, and proceeded to get ready as normal. 5 Minutes later I look out my window and I'm like where the **** is my car. I look down the street and I did not see it! I remember hearing my engine starting, so I ran downstairs, ran outside, and then I saw my car stuck on my neighbor's steps leading to his front door. This was about 6-7 houses down. Lucky for me there was no damage, other than a sprinkler head. My car was stuck, but we managed to push it out. I think wet grass, mud, and the steps saved me.

for you. Congrats. Only 19 posts and you've already made an *** out of yourself.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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it doesnt really DRIVE away, it just starts STALLS, starts stalls starts stalls, and when it hits somethings hopefully it stops, lol, but it doesnt drive away, it cant drive away without someone or something pressing the gas pedal
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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Start, stall,start, stall, start, stall, not start, stall, stall, stall. Otherwise I would've been fine.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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haha, my fault bro, HEY, atleast i know my **** i just havent gotten out of highschool yet, don't know where my commas go, haha
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nOOber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Autostart has had manual transmission starters and "Ready Mode" for over ten years... wake up guys
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I'm assuming that "Autostart" is a brand name. I guess that Autostart has never been mainstream enough to get the attention of the DEI guys. They've never heard of "Ready Mode" until I told them about the sequence required on the Aladdin A2000. At that time, the Lynx unit wasn't out yet.

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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 06:28 AM
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im putting in aladdin 2000 on my friends 91 integra. The remote start wire from the alarm gives a (-). So which wire on his clutch pedal should i attach it to?
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PetroGuyX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt really DRIVE away, it just starts STALLS, starts stalls starts stalls, and when it hits somethings hopefully it stops, lol, but it doesnt drive away, it cant drive away without someone or something pressing the gas pedal</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, it does if you happen to leave the ebrake off (and I know some people who have a habbit of parking in first with no ebrake). My EX-Manager's escort did right thru his parent's wall. Our cars will drive in first gear an an idle speed. They have enough torque. With the ebrake ya you're right, that's pretty much riding the starter the whole way
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PetroGuyX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt really DRIVE away, it just starts STALLS, starts stalls starts stalls, and when it hits somethings hopefully it stops, lol, but it doesnt drive away, it cant drive away without someone or something pressing the gas pedal</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've witnessed this and even demo'd this to customers (i.e. driving another installers mustang across our parking lot with no one in it.) In case it hasn't been said enough:

IT WILL DRIVE AWAY AND YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER IT HITS!!!!!

Case in point: The aforementioned installer drove his mustang into a VW one night after leaving it in gear. Afterwards, I did what I do to EVERY manual remote start I install. Rig a safety switch to the e-brake. You can either use the e-brake signal wire or install a pinswitch. Either way, it should be set up so that the car will only start when the emergency brake is engaged. If the emergency brake is not engaged, the car will not start at all. You can try to put a safety switch on the shifter but that is very difficult to get right (in my experience anyway). With the e-brake switch you can leave it in gear all day long and the car will just jump forward a few feet and stall out (all the ones I did anyway). The point is the car wont be driving off.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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If you realy want one before gay *** DEI took over Clifford they made a model you can still pick up called ... **** I will get back to you with the model number. anyway this set up had a three step process before leaving the car so that you could not start it in gear. with the keys in the ignition you had to put the brake up, take the car out of gear and then hit a key on the remote before turning your car off otherwise remote start would not ingage. anyway hope this will help
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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get a compustar and be done with it!
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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You are retarded. Are you basing this on pure speculation? Or do you have actual experience? Obviously, you don't know **** about this.

I came home drunk one night (this was a long time ago, in my integ, friend drove my car home for me) and he left it in gear. The e-brake was pulled all the way up. The next morning I had to go to work, I remote started the car, and proceeded to get ready as normal. 5 Minutes later I look out my window and I'm like where the **** is my car. I look down the street and I did not see it! I remember hearing my engine starting, so I ran downstairs, ran outside, and then I saw my car stuck on my neighbor's steps leading to his front door. This was about 6-7 houses down. Lucky for me there was no damage, other than a sprinkler head. My car was stuck, but we managed to push it out. I think wet grass, mud, and the steps saved me.

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are you drunk right now or something....i actually have autostart on my car and everyonce in a while after a friend mine would drive my car he would leave it in first gear and i would autostart it to warm it up and it would just bogg out. how the **** is your car gonna go anywhere, its not like its pushing on the gas, you prolly forgot to put the ebrake on or something dumb.
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