I wanna know if anyone's seen the H & R sport OE springs on a 94-00 integra. I heard the drop is only .75inches so I'm skeptical whether or not it's worth it to buy them. I want to get rid of the wheel gap. I heard the eibach pro-kit does the job ok, but the H & R's are easier for me to get and are also cheaper. So if anyone has an opinion on the H&R sport OE, let me know.

 

Yep, the drop on the OE's is ~1inch after settling. If you want to go with no fender gap then get the prokits. If you just want better handling and don't want to be too low, then get OE's.

 

red97gsr,

Is that 1 inch drop from the OE sport h&r's even really noticeable? Do you have a pic of your car? Thanks for the input by the way!

 

It's noticeable to me, maybe not so much to the non-enthusiast. It's just enough to cut the gap in half, getting rid of that "rally" look. If you want to rid of the gap completely, then the OEs aren't the springs for you; the Pro-Kits will probably be to your satisfaction. Either one is good, although I've heard that Pro-Kits don't settle evenly (not that it's noticeable though).

 

Sorry, I don't have a pic. I've been meaning to borrow a digital camera for months now. But the drop is noticeable, but it's not as much as the pro-kit drop. I do like the look of the drop from the pro-kits better, but I really didn't want to get too low. You can probably find some pics if you do a search, cause I remember seeing other people post pics of their cars with the OE's also.

Here's a link to a site where these guys are using the OEs also and have pics. http://members.home.net/integra-bros/

 

Get the Eibach Pro-kits. I have them and AGXs and love the setup. The fender gap has been decreased nicely.

Also, the ride hasn't been compromised one bit, but the car handles good when you want it to!

 

Ok, I would not recommend the Prokits with the AGX since the AGXs are only warranted to a 1.25" drop.
I have the H&R OE, and I like them. It did not get rid of the fender gap completely, but I dont scrape my bumper and I can actually get my jack under the supports (Important!).
Also, if you get the Prokit, you wont be able to align your suspension without a camber kit. With the OE setup, it lowers just enough to be able to align your car without a camber kit.

 

Here are some [huge] pics of a 95 GSR with the H&R OE Sports, to get an idea of the drop. Sorry about the size, they're about 400k each. I'm using KYB AGX shocks as well.
front: http://www.public.asu.edu/~igmben/pi...tock.front.jpg
rear: http://www.public.asu.edu/~igmben/pi...stock.rear.jpg

 

Wat do you guys think of the H&R SPORTS??? I want to eliminate the fender gap as well, I was also looking at the H&R Race springs, but I think thats tooooo low. I want to go with H&R Sport springs and KYB AGX's...give me some input...thanx

 

i just installed the H&R sports last night.. right now it's about a finger gap higher in the rear but given the nature of most springs i've worked with before, these should settle evenly within a week or two.

 

in7egrity, what kind of shocks do you have and how big are your rims?

 

I'm currently running the Prokits with my Koni Yellows and I LOVE THEM! Do some research and look at as many pictures as possible and hear the good/bad things about both kinds of springs you are looking at and then make your decision. If you have any further questions I'll be glad to help.

Just FYI, I had the Eibach Sportlines on before and changed them. You must know what you will be using the car for beore buying the springs. If you plan on seeing no track time and are just going to be doing city driving and want the drop more for looks than performance, then go with the Sportlines. If you want performance and a slightly less agressive drop than the Sportlines, get the Prokit.

 

Caffeine Slug,

Thanks for posting those pics. They were very helpful. I think the H&R's will settle perfectly with my car. I think with the stock 97gs-r rims, a small drop will be better because they're only 15 inchers. With bigger wheels, I'd probably get the eibach pro-kit. Thanks to everyone else for the input.

 

Not to offend you, but I don't understand ur reasoning behind [small wheels + small drop] and [big wheels + big drop]. The Prokit doesn't even drop the car that much. If I didn't have the Wings West RS lip, I'd definitely want my car lower, cause there's still major fender gap!

 

LeeChun,

I just thought that if I had small wheels and the car was slammed, it would look kinda funny. At least, that's what I picture in my head. I'm gonna go with the H&R's anyway cause I want a minimal drop, I'm mainly looking for just performance.

 

xsnrgsr,

do you mean the sportline kit or pro-kit? The pro-kit is only a 1.3" drop. I know you should use the camber plates with the sportlines and H&R sports, but I know a lot of people with the pro-kit and just had a regular alignment done.

 

I have the Eibach Pro-Kit with a 4-way adjustable GAB Revo super stroke setup.

Trust me, go with my setup and you will be really happy. I have put about 35,000 miles on this suspension system and has been working like a true champ.

My original drop was 1.3" but as like any springs it will sag a little bit more over time with wear and tear. Now I have a 1.5"+ drop. I really don't recommend anymore than a 1.5" drop if you have a bodykit and/or if you live with fukked about streets like Chicago.

Eibach Sportline kits are dropped more aggressively to a 1.75" and unless you have polyeurothane bodykit than don't get this.

AzianAvenger


[Modified by AzianAvenger, 7:00 AM 8/16/2001]

 

Like Vertius said, the Pro-kits are only rated for a 1.3" drop. I know people who have run AGXs on 2" lowering springs without problems. High spring rates combined with a low drop will kill AGXs.

Also, I have less than -1.5 degrees of camber on my car with the Pro-kits. My alignment is all within spec as well.

 

A general rule of thumb is that if the fender gap is greater than half the sidewall height, then the gap will look too big. And if it is smaller than half the sidewall height it starts looking OK (opinions vary). So that's why a smaller wheel with larger tire sidewalls can get away with bigger fender gaps without looking really funny than a larger wheel setup.

 

that's why my car looks so low... i'm running on 185/60/14's by the way oh yeah i have the koni yellow shocks too.. combined with the H&R sports i think it's pretty good..

 

hey in7egrity, i don't know too much about the technical aspects of lowering the car such as spring rates, camber stuff...etc....

I was wondering where and how much you got your springs and I was thinking about going with the KYB AGX's, you think thats a good combo? And did you also have to get a camber kit also??

Thanks for any advice.

 

vertius,

I am talking about any drop over a inch. The stock integra suspension can only bring drops that are about an inch back within alignment specs. You can still get an alignment done if you have a bigger drop, but you won't be able to bring it back to stock specs unless you install a camber kit. But any alignment is better than none at all.

 

i got my springs from exact motorsports in milpitas for $148+tax.. and yes i'm getting pretty horrible tire wear, especially on the insides after only a couple thousand miles.. from the looks of it the front is cambering really bad.. the rear looks fine though.. my camber kit should be here any day now

 

GS-R916, if you're interested, I am selling my Koni Yellows with Tanabe Precedeo springs. The springs will lower the car 1.5 inches. if interested, follow this link:
http://www.honda-tech.net/zerothread?id=60513

 

Here is a pic Just after my install..
also in the second pic, a comparison from stock to H&R OE's.

www.geocities.com/jrus1.geo/hrinstall2.jpg
www.geocities.com/jrus1.geo/stock_hr.jpg