as the title says... discuss

 

Spark Racing 4 into 1 SUS304 Stainless Steel Equal Length Tubular turbo exhaust manifold
Turbonetic T3/T04E Turbocharger assembly 57 trim / Stage III
Tial Waste gate 35mm (8.7 PSI Spring)
Spark Racing Front Mount intercooler w/ polished cast aluminum end tanks 29x10.5x2.5
BLITZ Super Blow Off Valve
Spark Racing Aluminum Intercooler Charge Piping
Spark Racing Mandrel bent Stainless Steel 2.5” high flow down pipe
Spark Racing waste gate dump tube Stainless Steel
255 gph High pressure/High volume intake fuel pump
Vortech Boost dependent FMU fuel regulator
Intake air filter assembly
Map sensor bypass (Missing Link)
Stainless steel braided oil feed line w/ fittings
Oil return assembly
All necessary hardware and fittings
All necessary hose and T-Bolt clamps
All necessary gaskets
Installation manual

 

seems to have everything the drag kit has but a better looking manifold, bigger intercooler, blitz blow valve instead of hks, and tial wastegate instead of deltagate; for about the same price.

im jus wondering about quality, fitment and if its compatible with ac, radiator, fans etc.


Modified by ambition at 5:06 AM 8/26/2003

 

What are the prices for these kits? I am very interested.

 

apparently camp1320.com had/has them at 2850 shipped!!! im pretty much sold on them i jus want to talk to some one about the quality, fitment, ac compatibilty, and the intercooler piping size

 

they are great kits....I'd buy one if I was looking for a kit.

 

those turbomanifolds blow ***. but other than that they soud ok to me.

 

manifold is the worst money can buy, and the worst you can design

intercooler cores sucks *** as well

and don't all the blitz BOV's leak really bad?

 

cool,... 2 against, one for.., more people vote please

 

if your gonna spend the money, go with a company that puts alot of research and development into their products.

 

^^^.... at that end of that sentence why don't u make a suggestion.

same with the other that don't like the kit please state valid reasons why i got a very useful pm... keep em coming.

i have a non obd, 90 integra b18a, i want to runb about 6-7 psi.

 

im thinkin custom now...

 

custom kits (if dont correctly) will outpreform a off-the-shelf-kit any day of the week (besides full-race)

 

upon further review i don't have the down time to piece together a kit for a custom instal plus i priced out a custome kit whoch is gonna cost me a lil more then a pre fab... my needs and goals aren't skyhigh 200whp with a car putting down 125 isn't gonna take a lot. i want 13's, 200whp, and a relible daily driven car. i think drag, rev hard, or spark can get me there. with accesories boost controller, turbo timer, boost gauge im lookin at around 3k shipped.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ambition &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">upon further review i don't have the down time to piece together a kit for a custom instal plus i priced out a custome kit whoch is gonna cost me a lil more then a pre fab... my needs and goals aren't skyhigh 200whp with a car putting down 125 isn't gonna take a lot. i want 13's, 200whp, and a relible daily driven car. i think drag, rev hard, or spark can get me there. with accesories boost controller, turbo timer, boost gauge im lookin at around 3k shipped. </TD></TR></TABLE>

All Spark Racing Turbo Kits Also come with a Free Boost Guage and Spark Plugs Its just something alittle extra to so are appriciation for your buisness

 

If I didn't go custom I would have went with max rev.. 3200 bucks w/ hondata s200b

http://www.ks-motorsports.com/...13988

 

just curious on how well you know turbo systems? Patience and research will yield better results. Yes, you are paying for the research done on kits......but YOU might actually learn more if you piece a setup together, and actually have a better setup. A turbo kit is not a bolt on and forget about it affair. If that's what you thought, then my friend you have much to learn. HARDWARE is the only complete part of the kit. the fuel management is usually a FMU and inline pump. You need a VAFC/SAFC inorder to control the fuel delivery better, especially with that type of fuel management. AEM EMS, HONDATA, PFC are standalones that offer more flexability and pure control of your engine and turbo systems characteristics......search and maybe you might feel different in the end. If you do be warned that there are alot of bad impressions about this sort of manifold. good luck! P.S. When fuel management is neglected you'll be one of those peeps who will say turbos blow up motors......read more learn more

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mamaboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just curious on how well you know turbo systems? Patience and research will yield better results. Yes, you are paying for the research done on kits......but YOU might actually learn more if you piece a setup together, and actually have a better setup. A turbo kit is not a bolt on and forget about it affair</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree 100%....I chose to go the custom route and I learned SOOOO MUCH more than I would have if I had just plopped down and spent $2500+ on a kit.. not syaing that you don't learn when you go "off the shelf" but decent custom setups always get a from me, shows you go that extra mile! just my $.02

 

BAH i APPERCIATE the feedback but to assume i am a boob who jus buys whats hot on the shelf is seneless in the last month i have prolly reasearched about 20 hours worth of do's and do not's, turbo faq's, turbo tutorials etc etc. i have price my own kit out and done the leg work. i think i have a very good understandng about turbo systems. i do not know everything and i have very lil expirence with FI cars. but i have defintlky tried to emerge myself in the "FI WORLD". about 80% of everything i know about turbos has come from this site or people from this site linking other turbo sites. like i said before for my goals i think a rev hard , drag or spark are fine. i have an safc and i plan on getting 450 injectors (not sure i will need them but that is what tuning is for) thanks again for everyones .2 cents im still learning (i.e. perfect trim for ls is confusing)

 

The Spark manis are ****.

 

^^^ EEE-LAB-OR-8

 

I just finished my custom turbo setup on my 98 civic. Everything went fairly well. Except for some problems with custom made parts. In the end I probably spent about the same amount for a kit. If I could go back I'd buy the kit instead.

NO headaches dealing with shops that don't do ur stuff right.
NO headaches finding fittings, and miscellanous stuff. etc....
Full kit probably take less time to install since u have everything there.

My custom kit took me 2 months to research and gather parts. Plus One week for the install. Thats how long it took for me anyway. Because you'll almost always run into problems during the install.

Doing it yourself you learn a lot. Its fun though if you like working on your car and you have the time.

tomorrow i get the downpipe made and put on. I can't wait to see how it runs but I'm expecting shiet to come up. hehe.

 

^^ werd i have basic tools, live in a appartment, work full time and have school. so i have no time for down time. my kit needs to be installed and tuned in 2 days!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ambition &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^ werd i have basic tools, live in a appartment, work full time and have school. so i have no time for down time. my kit needs to be installed and tuned in 2 days!</TD></TR></TABLE>

so i have no time for down time

Then i dont think you should be turboing your car.... or at least right now. If you can, do it when u have the time ... and there is no pressure or rush to get it complete.

you WILL most likely have downtime

no kit regardless if its a "FULL" kit is really complete. Some kits are missing some pieces etc. thats when u go to Home Depot, Kragen, NAPA etc like 50 times during your install to get all the little pieces together.

Anyways good luck with your project, but know from a fellow boosted member that if you give yourself 2 days to install it will probably take twice that long.

 

im gonna take it to a shop [B][and be active in the install/B] thats why i say 2 days that way when its installed i can strap it to the dyno and get it tuned. Streetflight in mesa AZ. is a great shop kieth is a very good and repected tuner.


yeah no doubt i wouldn;t be able to get it on in 2 days and tuned by myself! yeah see its the lil things that woul;d kill i have no problem bolting everything on. is the cuttinf fitting and misc hardware that will kill me.