I went to the track last night running the setup that's in my sig. Well to make a long story short I ran a shitty 15.0. I was very inconsistent and my tires are H rated pieces of **** on stock 14" steelies, I couldn't get traction until 3rd. 60ft. times were around 2.3 or so. I want to light my hatch on fire! All this time and work and I still have LOTS more money to invest until I can hit the dreaded 13's! I'm running an obd1 p75 with stock 6,800 rev limit and still running the stock exhaust. It pulls very hard but it seems to pull the hardest right around 6,000 rpms and then I have to shift. Well If anyone has any recommendations let me know.

 

Don't light the hatch on fire, it's not it's fault. You spent all that money building the motor and are still using 80k mile Pep Boy tires to "race" on.

Also post your whole slip so we know your mph and 1/8th mile times.

 

god thats weak...get some better tires and bump that redline to around 8 grand...

 

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8 Grand? Wuss! Real men rev to 10K. LoL

Anyhow, am I the only one who find it funny that this guy spent so much money on his motor and half-assed on the most critical part of the combination? Tires and proper tuning.

Dood, you need to stop spending money on the engine right now and focus on getting that motor tuned and having the right tires. For some reason, it doesn't seem like you have proper tuning.

Hell my car is capable of running 14.3 sec 1/4s bone stock with drag radials. Well engine wise. I don't know about the 2300lbs weight.

 

Better tires or even slicks...get your ecu chipped and im sure that exaust isnt helping out too much either. This just goes to show how important tuning is especially on something like this.

 

bump that redline up, get some slicks, and run open header that will help your times

 

pep boys LOL

 

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8 Grand? Wuss! Real men rev to 10K. LoL

Anyhow, am I the only one who find it funny that this guy spent so much money on his motor and half-assed on the most critical part of the combination? Tires and proper tuning.

Dood, you need to stop spending money on the engine right now and focus on getting that motor tuned and having the right tires. For some reason, it doesn't seem like you have proper tuning.

Hell my car is capable of running 14.3 sec 1/4s bone stock with drag radials. Well engine wise. I don't know about the 2300lbs weight. </TD></TR></TABLE>

he's running an LS motor...they arnt exactly high end beasts... 8 or 8500 should be fine.

 

sorry to here that nick. but get some nice drag radials or slicks and the car should move. I guess you can always go with a vtec head to!!!
Marcos

 

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Anyhow, am I the only one who find it funny that this guy spent so much money on his motor and half-assed on the most critical part of the combination? Tires and proper tuning.

Dood, you need to stop spending money on the engine right now and focus on getting that motor tuned and having the right tires. For some reason, it doesn't seem like you have proper tuning.
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Ok first of all don't talk **** about me half assing anything. I have spent alot of time and money on building my car from the ground up and I work a part time job. I am about to attend college next week. I have more than enough money to do what needs to be done to my car as far as what will improve my drag times. However I can't seem to figure out whats more important right now. An apartment to live in or drag racing my car. Maybe if I was already graduated and making good money I could afford to get all the **** done that needs to be done. It will get taken car of in the next month however and I will post my timeslips so you can drool on your computer screen.

BTW since people want to clown on my project, YOU can buy me some tires and Tony1 tuning

 

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Ok first of all don't talk **** about me half assing anything. I have spent alot of time and money on building my car from the ground up and I work a part time job. I am about to attend college next week. I have more than enough money to do what needs to be done to my car as far as what will improve my drag times. However I can't seem to figure out whats more important right now. An apartment to live in or drag racing my car. Maybe if I was already graduated and making good money I could afford to get all the **** done that needs to be done. It will get taken car of in the next month however and I will post my timeslips so you can drool on your computer screen.

BTW since people want to clown on my project, YOU can buy me some tires and Tony1 tuning
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Don't cry about it, look at your first post. You asked for help figuring out how to improve your times. Everyone told you the problem (tires) and you take offense to it and tell us your life story including your future educational plan.

You ask for help on a PUBLIC forum so chances are your gonna get a honest opinion if you like it or not.

 

I'm not crying. I'm also not asking for your moral support. I realize I need tuning and better tires. I guess I shouldn't have started this post because I knew before I started what needed to be done. I just wasn't expecting "some" people to be such ********* about how they offer their personal opinions.

But thanks to the people who aren't asses on HT!

Like Marcos from Grtechnologies. He offered advice minus the sarcasm and rude comments.

 

Here you go buddy..

Drag radials + Exhaust (retard, put exhaust on it) and HONDATA.. There you go --- boom 13s..

 

your exhause is hurting you the MOST. you can still run better times on h rated tires you just need to know exactly where to launch (look at my sig). tune tune tune that damn thing!!!

 

I want to get hondata but I'm not fully sure that I wanna stay nonvtec. I think I wanna get a vtec head so I can pull more power from this beast down the road. So I will deffinitely get a chipped ls ecu with a stock base map and higher revlimit for now. I need exhaust but I kinda like the sleeper look. Plus I would have to wear ear plugs to travel from houston to dallas which is a 3 hr. trip each weekend if I had exhaust. 70mph with a b16a tranny puts you at about 4,000 rpms!
Thanks for the replies.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want to get hondata but I'm not fully sure that I wanna stay nonvtec. I think I wanna get a vtec head so I can pull more power from this beast down the road. So I will deffinitely get a chipped ls ecu with a stock base map and higher revlimit for now. I need exhaust but I kinda like the sleeper look. Plus I would have to wear ear plugs to travel from houston to dallas which is a 3 hr. trip each weekend if I had exhaust. 70mph with a b16a tranny puts you at about 4,000 rpms!
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yeah Nick the vtec head will definatly help. Especially if you can rev the car. And the Hondata will free up some horsepower. Good Luck. And let me know if you need anything.

Marcos

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I went to the track last night running the setup that's in my sig. Well to make a long story short I ran a shitty 15.0. I was very inconsistent and my tires are H rated pieces of **** on stock 14" steelies, I couldn't get traction until 3rd. 60ft. times were around 2.3 or so. I want to light my hatch on fire! All this time and work and I still have LOTS more money to invest until I can hit the dreaded 13's! I'm running an obd1 p75 with stock 6,800 rev limit and still running the stock exhaust. It pulls very hard but it seems to pull the hardest right around 6,000 rpms and then I have to shift. Well If anyone has any recommendations let me know. </TD></TR></TABLE>


One of the first thing I learn from other local hardcore racers like the Puerto ricans, is traction, practice at the light, your RPM takeoff, buring the clutch, traction, traction and more practice.

Plus, no offense, but you have a torquey motor, especially with a stock exhaust that is choking the motor, possibly creatin more torque, hence the major spinning the tires.

Then again, don't put yourself down and listen to others on here. Just practice, practice, practice and practice alot! Sorta like having sex, at first you will suck(everybody does), but after banging the same person over 500 times (sorta like shift gears) you become a sex-master, lol. Consistency takes time!

Bert who knows he's getting points off....... again, lol

 

Hey Nick, I told you EXHAUST. You need it. You want to keep it a sleeper, fine, get like a flowmaster muffler, and get it welded on, no tip, just the stock flowmaster tip, and it will look stock. Put a resonator on it, and you will be straight. Times are

We ran a 9.6 in the 1/8th with Colin's Z6, and a 50 shot, and thats with shitty 60 foot, 2.4....

 

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We ran a 9.6 in the 1/8th with Colin's Z6, and a 50 shot, and thats with shitty 60 foot, 2.4.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Steve, your right my times did suck. But you and I both know that I can take colins car on the street. My **** just needs to be tuned is all. I'm getting it all taken care of this week. I know I could've hit mid 14's if I had traction though and that's without tuning. I couldn't hook up untill 3rd unless I slipped the clutch.

 

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WOW, you couldn't get traction until third with just that setup? Your tires must really really suck. Of course, if your car is lowered and you haven't corrected the camber to near zero, you won't have any traction either. Our shops car has problems with first and second but it's making over 400hp.

Get a decent set of tires before doing anything else, and get the camber to near zero, more power is not gonna help you. You are just gonna spin more.

 

You have to practise, if you want better times at the track. Getting better track times is a combination of 60ft and shifting. About 70% of a drag race is in your 60ft. However if you don't shift smooth& fast you won't get that great of times either. Shifting makes up usaully makes up about 30% of a drag race, unless you shift hard and sluggish. As far a mechanical wise you need to tune the car for it to get those thirteens, play with tire pressure as well. With your 60ft you should at least be hittin a mid 14. Good luck at the track.

 

There was a dude with a Type R engine in an EF hatch at a local drag strip hitting times between 14.3 and 16.0...he would spin all the way through second. So don't worry too much, you just have to get used to your car. Learn how to launch, etc.

Good luck, your setup is similar to what mine is going to be.

 

If you invested so much money in your motor, you better finish off the important parts that are left. Tuning, exhaust, etc...because you obviously should be running harder...

I ran 13's w/ i/e/h in my hatch, you should definately be running faster with your build setup, even w/o vtec....get hondata, get some dyno time, and the exhaust work you need done. Try some 2.5" mandrel bent piping, a resonator, and an ES Tuning Oval muffler..

 

Yea, I was going to just get a chip for now and wait to get hondata when I get a vtec head but I decided to push this engine to its limits. I'm getting hondata, and exhaust is on the way. All I need to do is schedule dyno time!