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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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hi

I am doing a LSD into my 00 si tranny. I have a small problem now. When I went to honda to get the shims for the tranny they told me that they have 2 different sizes and like 8 varations on how thick? How do I know which one to use? Like I said its a 00 Si tranny with the CTR LSD w/ 98 ITR Final driven gear(ring gear)?
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Old broke *** differential vs. the new CTR LSD

this is where the shim should be

diff inside the tranny..(without shim) just making sure it fits.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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the procedure is described in the helms manual, it's not hard to do just follow the instructions. i don't have the manual, if i did, i would descrive the procedure. good luck!
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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how much did you pay for that lsd and ring? and you mos-def need a helms for that.
sorry i couldnt help
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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I kinda know how to install it, I have the honda service manual for a 96 del sol which has the b16 in it and goes into detail, but i don't know how to figure out that size shim goes in there. They have a list of different thicknesses and I read somewhere online that you have to like assemble the tranny with just the lsd in there and measure the gap from the diff to the tranny case with a feeler gauge but I don't get exactly how and if thats right.

by the way : The lsd was from Japandy from ebay and i think i got it for like 390 shipped from japan, then the ring gear from Acura was i think like another 200. Plus new bolts another $30.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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Put the diff in the case, and bolt the 2 halves together. Make sure the diff is fully seated into the housing on one side (bearing is bottomed out). Flip the case over, and take out the axle seal. Now slide the feeler gauge in between the diff case and the bearing. Start with a .010" feeler. If that won't go in, try the .005". If that goes in, move up to the .006", and so on till it won't go in anymore. The feeler should slide in as far as the outside diameter of the bearing. If it doesn't go in that far, then you're not sliding it in in the right place. If the .005" won't go in, then go down in .001" steps till it does.

Make sure you take out the shim that is already in there before you start this. Or check the clearance with your current shim stack, and if its within factory tolerance, you're good to go.
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Old Aug 18, 2003 | 05:22 AM
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THANK YOU! that makes sense now. Damn this tranny, lol, oh well I better get alot of experience points for this **** haha. Thanks alot man, I should be able figure it out from here. I'll post updates when I get the tranny in the car! Thanks again for all the help fella's !!
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:26 PM
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Well damnit... I'm in trouble again, I got a chance to take a stab at this thing and I got nothing. Son of a bitch.


I can't even fit a feeler gauge in it.



HOW THE HELL??? IM soo screwed
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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make sure you correctly torque down the tranny bolts. That is the key. Too tight and the diff won't even move, too loose and you'll have too much clearance. I don't remember what the manual says- 20 lb/ft??, but make sure that is where you are at or else you'll have problems throughout the whole process.
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 08:37 AM
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Wouldn't it be faster to use Plasti-gauge while doing the trial assembly?

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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wes V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wouldn't it be faster to use Plasti-gauge while doing the trial assembly?

Wes</TD></TR></TABLE>

u use a feeler guage not a plasti-guage...thats how u mesure it for cleareance

check here..
http://www.hybridgarage.com/tech/lsd/index.html

u got the new final drive from acura..? did u get a gsr..? u should of gotten the final drive that goes w. the CTR lsd..and u need the correct imput shaft to go w. that final drive too..gl
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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hmm man.. this is soo hard to explain. Yea I bought the new ring gear from acura its a gsr/type-r (they're the same) . But I mean I fit everything in there , gears and all fit but its just im missing that one shim. But there's two shims that go in there. There's one that goes in the side where the clutch would attach to and then one on the other side. From the pics you can see that I need the one on the clutch side. Problem is where I need the feeler to go the piece of the diff sticks out blocking me from getting in there. GRR soo frustrating.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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I just put an ITR LSD in my '00 B16 tranny. I didn't bother w/ any kind of "shim", just a direct replacement of differentials. I did this about 5-6k miles ago & no problems whatsoever.
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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Most likely you had the shim in there already... But I guess I lost mine cuz its not there???
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nickwilmot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most likely you had the shim in there already... But I guess I lost mine cuz its not there???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn, still in peices.....lol Still waiting for that snail to find its home.......?

Coming back in town tomorrow.....call me up if you get a chance.
later

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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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Try this: remove all the shims, then use the feeler gauge to find your tolerance. The advantage to that is you can feel how it goes all the way in past the bearing's inner race. To get it to slide in to that space, push the feeler gauge agains the end of the diff and "aim" the tip into between the bearing and case.
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 12:19 AM
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These scans should help a little.....



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