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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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I would like to rev to 9000 rpm. Do I just need new valves, springs, and rods? I know the cam will not make power past 8100, but I may be running a turbo with the 9000 rpm redline. Do i need any other upgrades just to go to 9000, not necessarily to make power after 8100?
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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ur gonna need a all new vavletrain to rev to 9, but i dont really understand why you want to rev that high if ur not making power
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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springs, retainers, and cams
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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hmm i seem to have came across the ALL MOTOR FORUM. turbo and all motor??? something doesnt sound right. wrong forum einstein.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Quickest way to 9000 RPM (xsnrgsr)

one of our dealers cars goes to 10 and sometimes 11k alot with our springs and retainers.

im pretty sure his bottom end is balanced though.

pretty much all the companies that make stiffer valvesprings can support 9k.
even portflow with all yellow springs can handle 9k
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Quickest way to 9000 RPM (xsnrgsr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xsnrgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I may be running a turbo with the 9000 rpm redline. </TD></TR></TABLE>
to rev to 9k springs, retainers. However, you're in the ALL MOTOR forum, so if you want FI info I suggest you try there.

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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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put it in neutral


...with no extra strain on the motor it will rev very fast so be careful


Modified by allmtr y0! at 7:37 PM 8/12/2003
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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lol
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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BTW- i am an EF1 customer. anyone who says you need aftermarket retainers is a goober. im running cams, and springs-EF1 springs. rev to 10,000 daily once or more times,and have gone as high as 12 on a misshift.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:36 PM
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move your gsr intake springs to the exhaust side

itr outers, portflow inners

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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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before you tell me to go the FI forum, i was asking about raising my redline to 9000 rpm, and if i am not mistaken, that is an all-motor question. the turbo thing was just an idea i had with a 9000 rpm redline. so chill out, it was a all-motor question. and i guess the answer is valves, springs, retainers, and rods, and cams if i want to still make power w/o a turbo.
so is using the word "turbo" like an insult around here?
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xsnrgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> is using the word "turbo" like an insult around here?</TD></TR></TABLE>

pretty much... yeah.

you don't really need rods to rev that high. I've ran a couple of motors with completely stock bottom ends well past 9k, several times per day. But running a NA set up is very different than FI. You don't want JUN cams for FI and you wouldn't want low profile cams for NA. Make a decision what you're going to do and then do it... don't be so wishy washy
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 09:08 PM
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Ok, I don't know much about all-motor setups, but I have heard they are more expensive and for the same price, won't make as much power as a FI setup, but can be more reliable.
So, are stroker kits a good deal, and who has the best for the money. What kind of power would i expect with raised compression, more agressive cams, and a 9k redline. sorry if the questions are so vague, like i said i don't know much about all-motor.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 05:10 AM
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get a B18C-R head and rev away... it's factory Redline is 8900, I'm sure 100 extra R's won't hurt nothing.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 06:15 AM
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The quickest way to 9,000 rpm is to redline third and then shift into second
There is no point in going to 9,000 rpm if your peak is at 8,100. If you want to rev to 9,000-get cams that make power up there and bump your compression to better take advantage of the cams. Uprade the valvetrain as well.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 06:36 AM
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Start the car and put your gas petal to the floor while car is in neutral!!
Ps. must have capable ecu.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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damn some people play around too much. Help the guy out. so what if he's going turbo later down the road.

Haven't any of you mishifted and gone above 8500rpms into the 9k range and worry about how can i make my motor stronger so that when I do mishift, I don't have to worry about it as much.... take the question at that angle.

yeah you basically listed everything needed!
also it would not hurt to get your entire bottom end balanced accordinly with your new rods, pistons, flywheel ect
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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Valve springs is all you need and a computer that will allow you to rev that high.
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