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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 08:16 PM
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Well, I undertand the theory of downshift and done it a few time. It felt weird on some of the local curve's around my house.
Maybe it's the reason that I didn't brake hard and late enough to actually benefit from it. But I don't wanna get too risky on city streets.
But the question is when I watch BM vcds, I notice that they downshift through each gears without skipping.
For example, they are coming to an end of a stright in 4th and ready to corner in to a curve that's suitable for 2nd gear.
They would Clutch in, H&T, blip gas, down 3rd. Cluth out. Then again! Clutch in, H&T, blip gas. then...down to the 2nd. Instead of holding the clutch or brake longer to go straight from 4-2. Is this a proper way of H&T? And is this way better for the tranny?

Saturday will be my first track day and I would like to know the correct way so I can practice and not develop a bad habit of incorrect H&T.


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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 08:20 PM
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Maybe it's the reason that I didn't brake hard and late enough to actually benefit from it.
Saturday will be my first track day and I would like to know the correct way so I can practice and not develop a bad habit of incorrect H&T.
That is the EXACT reason it feels weird. On the street there arent any possible instances that could recreate the braking needed on the track. Its funny, what you practice on the street feels so off, but it seems to all come together once you are out there on the track.

Just study it mentally...and you will have it before you know it out there.
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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 08:27 PM
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Default Re: OT: Best Motoring's H&T downshifts..... (nEoMuGen)

it's hard to practice late braking on the streets (actually, not recommended) but h&t is something that can be practiced. I've been h&t'ing on the streets for ...hoary chit! 8 yrs now!

yoshi - who likes to show people how to h&t and then watch them try it for the 1st time

oh jeah, it's better to go thru the whole gears b/c it's easier to produce a rythm down thru the gears.
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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 08:28 PM
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Ok, I guess I'll be watching endlessly BM videos to "memorize" it robotically.
I scare the crap out of a old man walking a dog when I did some of the earlier trials. I wanna rev more so I brake more, the transisition is really not smooth. And with some understeering, my car rip out of the corner like a drunken man. I can still remember that awked look on that guy's face as I am busy correcting the steering wheel.
Oh and I have Mugen pedal sets, so I think the pedals are somewhat easier to H&T, and I was wearing thin-layer shoes.
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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 08:30 PM
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oh jeah, it's better to go thru the whole gears b/c it's easier to produce a rythm down thru the gears.

Won't double-pumping the clutch more volunable for clutch wear?
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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 08:30 PM
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i have 2 different styles. One for street and the other for track. Street, is just basic clutch in and rev the motor, D-shift and match the revs.

Heel toe for the track. I can keep the two separte for the drive home. Practice i guess.
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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 08:34 PM
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Won't double-pumping the clutch more volunable for clutch wear?
Its easier to do it wrong if you dont go down 4-3-2-1. If you went 4-1 and didnt brake hard enough...OOPS!!

As a beginner, just try the smoothest way first!
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