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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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um... has anyone ever broke a short shifter? because i just did. ill try and get pix up later tonight. it broke nice and clean right above the ball.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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what kind of shifter was it?
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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im guessing a cheap ebay one right? my friend has one and it bends a little if you shift hard, get a DC sports, i like mine its really smooth and short, not to mention strong. i think its better on your tranny too, get the poly bushings for the shifter as well i hear they help a lot
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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and dont shift as hard either, it wont break then
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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use the search...

I'm not trying to be a d!ck but....
How in gods name did it break... I never understood this... If my shifter was made of a dowel rod (wood) I wouldn't break it... why would you be compelled to put that much force on a part regardless of whether it SHOULD or SHOULDN'T break...

For it to break you'd have to be putting considerable force after it was already in gear... why?

Pulling your shifter harder don't make you or your shifts any faster... just my .02


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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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i kno people who broke there shifters....they are like APC and crap....just get a better brand or dont shift soo hard
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use the search...

I'm not trying to be a d!ck but....
How in gods name did it break... I never understood this... If my shifter was made of a dowel rod (wood) I wouldn't break it... why would you be compelled to put that much force on a part regardless of whether it SHOULD or SHOULDN'T break...

For it to break you'd have to be putting considerable force after it was already in gear... why?

Pulling your shifter harder don't make you or your shifts any faster... just my .02


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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=480487</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was gonna say, i heard that before!

but seriously dude no need to slam shifter
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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I broke mine 3 days after I put it in. Broke just above the ball. Mine was just a E-bay cheapy (aka. APC). I'm lookin for a stainless one now. Whos got them?
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Never had a problem with my DC Sports short shifter. It lasted me a little over a year before I sold it to CzanSOHC. I went back to the stock shifter with Prothane shifter bushings. Longer throws but I can shift just as fast.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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kid down the street from me broke 2 apc shifters in his z24
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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a buddie of mine broke his b&m short throw, he wasnt even shifting hard either! hope mine doesnt break now!
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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get a Hurst...!!!
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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i have a dc sports one and i love it
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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Skunk2 works well for me.

I think the problem is that since the shifts are crisper, people like to exagerrate the shift and punch it into gear. There's no real need to do that, since along with breaking shifters you'll be messing up synchros as well.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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I didnt shift hard in my EG and I broke a DC shifter. Just a routine 1-2 shift.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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i had a Skunk2 **** on an Ebay shifter and on a 3-4 shift on the highway the shift **** just rolled into the center console i just rethreaded it and put the **** back on. it will run like that till i am done building and breaking in the new motor
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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hahahaha. i broke 2 JG shifters and 1 C's shifter.... i call on the next challenger


is there a shifter that can withstand my mighty short throws??
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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Maybe a, dare I say, slushbox?!
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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My friend Bronson broke 2 Type R shifters, then he got a skunk2 and wreckd his car before he could break that one
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGRhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend Bronson broke 2 Type R shifters, then he got a skunk2 and wreckd his car before he could break that one </TD></TR></TABLE>
so he skipped the shifter and went straight for the car huh
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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i've heard lots of stories of ppl breaking short shifters, but what i don't get is how someone can break a piece of medal with their on strength. are those short shifters like hollow on the inside or something?
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzntaggeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've heard lots of stories of ppl breaking short shifters, but what i don't get is how someone can break a piece of medal with their on strength. are those short shifters like hollow on the inside or something?</TD></TR></TABLE>no, just weak material
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmtr y0! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so he skipped the shifter and went straight for the car huh</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats affrimative... ran from the cops comming home from Pacific raceways (he had just ran his fastest time ever, 13.1) went down a hill and tried to make a 90-degree turn while downshifting into 2nd the wheels locked up, he started sliding and wedged the front end under a guardrail.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmtr y0! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, just weak material</TD></TR></TABLE>

there has to be more to it than that...

Possibley the ones that are breaking are made straight then machine bent... this can SERIOUSLY stress metal making it EASIER to snap than wood...

Like I said though I can all but guarantee I could shift my car with a 1.5" dowel rod... and NEVER break it.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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no they dont break at the bend. they break just above the ball. the cheapy shifters are made from cast aluminum which is hard but brittle. you just have the most leverage at that spot in the shifter.
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