RSX Compared to Integra(RSX) Type-R
I'm not sure if this has been covered already, but do any of you know if the chassis of the DC5R is different than the DC5? The previous Integra Type-R actually had a different chassis and i was wondering if this was also so with the new Integra/RSX.
also if they are or aren't the same chassis, what makes them different? The last generation Integra Type-R had 3 more bars that could not be fitted to the non Type-R spec Integra.
oh and a kind of off topic question for the RSX and the Type-S models the brakes and suspension components are all exactly the same right?
also if they are or aren't the same chassis, what makes them different? The last generation Integra Type-R had 3 more bars that could not be fitted to the non Type-R spec Integra.
oh and a kind of off topic question for the RSX and the Type-S models the brakes and suspension components are all exactly the same right?
i think the type S got a better susp. i believe brakes are the same.
and the DC2-R actually had a stiffer chassis in some areas which could not be replicated.
BUT, the EP3 and the DC5 are really stuff as is. so i think the chassis(s) lol. are the same. but that is just my speculation.
and the DC2-R actually had a stiffer chassis in some areas which could not be replicated.
BUT, the EP3 and the DC5 are really stuff as is. so i think the chassis(s) lol. are the same. but that is just my speculation.
i dont even know if the DC5R is even hand built anymore ...i doubt they are .....they chassis is prolly the same ...cept for the sunroof of course
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tone*def »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all i know for the chassis it self DC5-R does not have a sun roof.
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well durh ....its a Type R ....
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DC5-R also comes with a rear small bar the connects the two struts via the two already in place brackets that are already on the Type-S and Base. Also comes with thicker rear sway bar 22mm(r) vs 19mm(s) 17mm(base).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jun DC5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DC5-R also comes with a rear small bar the connects the two struts via the two already in place brackets that are already on the Type-S and Base. Also comes with thicker rear sway bar 22mm(r) vs 19mm(s) 17mm(base).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Base comes with 19mm. I heard CDM bases has a 17mm but I don't think that was verified exactly.
Base comes with 19mm. I heard CDM bases has a 17mm but I don't think that was verified exactly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by visi0n »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure if this has been covered already, but do any of you know if the chassis of the DC5R is different than the DC5? The previous Integra Type-R actually had a different chassis and i was wondering if this was also so with the new Integra/RSX.
also if they are or aren't the same chassis, what makes them different? The last generation Integra Type-R had 3 more bars that could not be fitted to the non Type-R spec Integra.
oh and a kind of off topic question for the RSX and the Type-S models the brakes and suspension components are all exactly the same right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The curb weight of the DC5-R is 2596lbs. The RSX Type S is 2760-something I think. Otherwise the chassis is still the same.
The chassis from what I've researched has gone through a chassis stiffening process similar to the DC2R but it's even more stiffer than it was before. RSX chassis are stiffer than the DC2s just FYI.
Suspension-wise, nearly everything is different. The only thing I can find that's probably the same is the front anti sway bar but everything nearly connects the same. I'm not sure about the S but the R does come with an upper front strut bar. The suspension is different. The springs lower the car slightly lower than the S (but the older R was much lower. I heard it was raised for comfort issues with the DC2R.) Well, regardless of right height, the car seems to be at it's center of gravity knowing that it does faster lap times than the DC2R. It'll clearly outhandle a Type S knowing the DC2R could run circles around the S stock for stock.
The brakes are Brembo in the DC5R front and back as they're quite big under 17 inch wheels. The braking power obviously goes to the R. The hubs are also different and you'll need them to put the 17inch wheels on the S I believe (IF that's all there is to it).
We all know the engine - it's gone through the hand port and polished but Honda's doing it differently now (and it's not by machine) I read that they're using different materials to do it but I wasn't given any specifics on it. At any rate, it makes 220PS which is about 217BHP and it's only recorded quarter mile run that I've come across... is a 14.2 which makes it the 2nd fastest production FWD car ever made losing to of course the SRT-4 by a few hairs.
I believe the tires are Bridgestone RE040s but I've learned one owner on this site wasn't given those tires and prefered the ones he received over the Potenzas. To say the least, Honda's always given their Type Rs promising tires to match the car's capabilities whereas the Type S lacks in good stock tires for at the limit driving - which is kind of low considering it's an Acura.
All in all, the U.S. is getting screwed.
also if they are or aren't the same chassis, what makes them different? The last generation Integra Type-R had 3 more bars that could not be fitted to the non Type-R spec Integra.
oh and a kind of off topic question for the RSX and the Type-S models the brakes and suspension components are all exactly the same right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The curb weight of the DC5-R is 2596lbs. The RSX Type S is 2760-something I think. Otherwise the chassis is still the same.
The chassis from what I've researched has gone through a chassis stiffening process similar to the DC2R but it's even more stiffer than it was before. RSX chassis are stiffer than the DC2s just FYI.
Suspension-wise, nearly everything is different. The only thing I can find that's probably the same is the front anti sway bar but everything nearly connects the same. I'm not sure about the S but the R does come with an upper front strut bar. The suspension is different. The springs lower the car slightly lower than the S (but the older R was much lower. I heard it was raised for comfort issues with the DC2R.) Well, regardless of right height, the car seems to be at it's center of gravity knowing that it does faster lap times than the DC2R. It'll clearly outhandle a Type S knowing the DC2R could run circles around the S stock for stock.
The brakes are Brembo in the DC5R front and back as they're quite big under 17 inch wheels. The braking power obviously goes to the R. The hubs are also different and you'll need them to put the 17inch wheels on the S I believe (IF that's all there is to it).
We all know the engine - it's gone through the hand port and polished but Honda's doing it differently now (and it's not by machine) I read that they're using different materials to do it but I wasn't given any specifics on it. At any rate, it makes 220PS which is about 217BHP and it's only recorded quarter mile run that I've come across... is a 14.2 which makes it the 2nd fastest production FWD car ever made losing to of course the SRT-4 by a few hairs.
I believe the tires are Bridgestone RE040s but I've learned one owner on this site wasn't given those tires and prefered the ones he received over the Potenzas. To say the least, Honda's always given their Type Rs promising tires to match the car's capabilities whereas the Type S lacks in good stock tires for at the limit driving - which is kind of low considering it's an Acura.
All in all, the U.S. is getting screwed.
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Suspension-wise, nearly everything is different. The only thing I can find that's probably the same is the front anti sway bar but everything nearly connects the same. I'm not sure about the S but the R does come with an upper front strut bar. The suspension is different. The springs lower the car slightly lower than the S (but the older R was much lower. I heard it was raised for comfort issues with the DC2R.) Well, regardless of right height, the car seems to be at it's center of gravity knowing that it does faster lap times than the DC2R. It'll clearly outhandle a Type S knowing the DC2R could run circles around the S stock for stock.
The brakes are Brembo in the DC5R front and back as they're quite big under 17 inch wheels. The braking power obviously goes to the R. The hubs are also different and you'll need them to put the 17inch wheels on the S I believe (IF that's all there is to it).
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Type-S comes with a front upper strut tower bar. Front sway bars ARe different between the 2. And many people have put the DC5R wheels on their Type-S' without swapping hubs.
Suspension-wise, nearly everything is different. The only thing I can find that's probably the same is the front anti sway bar but everything nearly connects the same. I'm not sure about the S but the R does come with an upper front strut bar. The suspension is different. The springs lower the car slightly lower than the S (but the older R was much lower. I heard it was raised for comfort issues with the DC2R.) Well, regardless of right height, the car seems to be at it's center of gravity knowing that it does faster lap times than the DC2R. It'll clearly outhandle a Type S knowing the DC2R could run circles around the S stock for stock.
The brakes are Brembo in the DC5R front and back as they're quite big under 17 inch wheels. The braking power obviously goes to the R. The hubs are also different and you'll need them to put the 17inch wheels on the S I believe (IF that's all there is to it).
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Type-S comes with a front upper strut tower bar. Front sway bars ARe different between the 2. And many people have put the DC5R wheels on their Type-S' without swapping hubs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlammedBlueEM2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I believe the tires are Bridgestone RE040s but I've learned one owner on this site wasn't given those tires and prefered the ones he received over the Potenzas. To say the least, Honda's always given their Type Rs promising tires to match the car's capabilities whereas the Type S lacks in good stock tires for at the limit driving - which is kind of low considering it's an Acura.
All in all, the U.S. is getting screwed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The tires that I got on mine are Advan (Yokohama) A046. Hand felt between them and the BS Potenza's, the Advan's felt stickier, are they, not sure. I'm just glad to have gotten the Advans. When the Integra was first released here in Japan, the one that came into Honda Verno also had the Advan tires. The model sitting at the dealer now has the Bridgestones. Not sure how it works, or if you even have a choice.
Chris
I believe the tires are Bridgestone RE040s but I've learned one owner on this site wasn't given those tires and prefered the ones he received over the Potenzas. To say the least, Honda's always given their Type Rs promising tires to match the car's capabilities whereas the Type S lacks in good stock tires for at the limit driving - which is kind of low considering it's an Acura.
All in all, the U.S. is getting screwed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The tires that I got on mine are Advan (Yokohama) A046. Hand felt between them and the BS Potenza's, the Advan's felt stickier, are they, not sure. I'm just glad to have gotten the Advans. When the Integra was first released here in Japan, the one that came into Honda Verno also had the Advan tires. The model sitting at the dealer now has the Bridgestones. Not sure how it works, or if you even have a choice.
Chris
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:cry me a river: .... LOL
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:cry me a river: .... LOL
The Type S and Base RSX suspension and brake components are different. The Type S has bigger rotors upfront. I don't know if the pads are different or not. THe Type S suspension is stiffer--though not stiff enough for my taste. Types S also has bigger rear sway bar and a rear lower tie bar.
BTW The K20A head and the K20A2 head is the same. It's not different like the B18C5 (DC2R) and the B18C (DC2) heads.
BTW The K20A head and the K20A2 head is the same. It's not different like the B18C5 (DC2R) and the B18C (DC2) heads.
FYI...they are the same...except they now use a very,VERY fine sand to cast the piece over the old hand porting method, the dc5r has a smoother(so smooth hand porting is not needed!) sand that is used in the process -v- the dc5s !.
...mateo
...mateo
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mateo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FYI...they are the same...except they now use a very,VERY fine sand to cast the piece over the old hand porting method, the dc5r has a smoother(so smooth hand porting is not needed!) sand that is used in the process -v- the dc5s !.
...mateo</TD></TR></TABLE>
He is correct.
...mateo</TD></TR></TABLE>
He is correct.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Z4xLSVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Type S and Base RSX suspension and brake components are different. The Type S has bigger rotors upfront. I don't know if the pads are different or not. THe Type S suspension is stiffer--though not stiff enough for my taste. Types S also has bigger rear sway bar and a rear lower tie bar.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The S also has different front axles than the base RSX, just to add on to what you said.
The S also has different front axles than the base RSX, just to add on to what you said.
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