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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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today it was a pretty hot day, and i drove around from school and back about 20 mins and went to a friends house left my car outside in the sweldering heat for about 3 hours, as i started my car it cranked up but didnt start, second time it cranked started and died and for 3 more times it happened. I wanna know whats up? anyone have any ideas i already did a search on car starting problems and found nothing i was looking for. My car is 93 del sol 150,000 miles just changed oil, my friend told me it could be my spark plugs.
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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It's your main relay. Change it out and you won't have anymore problems.
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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where can i get that? and how much will it cost? is it easy to install? thanks for the feedback though sorry about all the questions im just worried
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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It is located kinda behind the fuse box on the driver's side right hand side. It is a reddish box, I think it is a 12mm bolt that holds it in place.

I would recommend you get a main relay or PGMFI relay from Honda. it's probably gonna cost you about $40-$50. Go to Honda explain the problem to them and if they tell you its the main relay, that's the part you want.

I hear someone on the board say that if they have problems starting giving it a tap will fire up the car. But only do that until you get a replacement.
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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are you sure its the main relay?
today i drove it to school, but when i started the car to drive home it died and then it cranked up but no start, then the third time the idle was really lower than usual.
If its the main relay does that mean it will start but not when its hot
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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im having this problem also how easy is it to change your main relay?
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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search for main relay. btw, an old fuel filter can cause similar problem (according to a haynes manual at least)
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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I believe the car will not start when it gets hot because the relay heats up and isn't able to make contact to engage the fuel pump. When the car is not able to start, when you turn the key on do you hear the fuel pump prime? If it does not it is probably the main relay.

I doubt if it is your fuel filter. Even if the filter if clogged you will still be able to hear the fuel pump prime the system.

Like I said before go to Honda and explain the symptoms and see what they say, chances are they will tell you its the relay. The problem seems to only come up during summer.

Let me know what you find out.
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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will honda charge me if i bring my car there for them to check it out?
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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Yes they will charge you. ALOT at that... more then the cost of a Main Relay.

dood, totally.. just try it. If thats not it, take it back, then save some $$ to take your car to honda if you want to.

Honda-tech has alot of people who know their stuff, take the advise your given first. If that don't work, then find other means of getting it fixed. (Even if it does mean getting raped by honda mechanic prices)

my $.02
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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I think you misunderstood what I suggested, but rather go to the parts counter and see if the person behind the desk knows what they are talking about tell them your symptoms, they might be able to point you in the right direction. Or alternatively you can go ask one of the service advisors, they usually know what they're talking about. I have done that many times and they have always been happy to help, without costing me anything.. and most of the time they were spot on in their diagnosing the problem.
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Change your main relay -

Check the following links:

http://autorepair.about.com/li...c.htm

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howt...y.htm
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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how do i take out the main relay? and where can i get a main relay for a 93 del sol s besides the honda dealership. Alright thanks for the info
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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i had same problem (fuel pump relay) changed it have had problem since
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 12:51 AM
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Just go to the Honda dealership and get the OEM part. Pretty sure its the only place you are going to find it.

Have you located the relay yet? If so taking it out is self explanatory. It's a little box shaped relay with a harness plugged into it. It is bolted to the car with a single (1) 10mm bolt. It is located by your fuse panel inside the car, right above the hood pop latch, under the dash area. Easy to access, unplug, unbolt and replace.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ill phil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just go to the Honda dealership and get the OEM part. Pretty sure its the only place you are going to find it.
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is there only one type of main relay for every honda?

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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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Not too sure about that, but one way to find out is to call Honda and ask them. It could be a safe assumption.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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Default Re: help my car has problems starting (hondasleeper)

make sure you DO NOT hear the pump priming... because that's how you tell if it's actually the main relay...

others have been complaining of this problem and MANY of them have NO priming issues...

here's a thread on it...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=584799
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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well i just bought a main relay at the honda dealer for $55, but ill fill you guys in if its not the problem.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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i just installed new spark plugs and the main relay and now i have no problems thanks guys.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Good to hear , mine crapped out on me Friday afternoon. Time to hit up the dealership for a new one Mon.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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ill phil what happened to your car?
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