B16a Cam gears on a DOHC ZC!!!!!!

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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Default B16a Cam gears on a DOHC ZC!!!!!!

YAY OR NAY??

Shop said no but I've heard otherwise...the car is being tow'd t here to fix.......

Opinions quick..thanks...
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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yes you can. some people supposedly have a hard time getting everything timed right, but they will work.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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I know they work but they said its not worth it....blah blah blah.....

I've read that its good and junk.....
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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i have skunk2 cam gears on my zc and i love them. Very nice for tuning
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowCivicHmm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know they work but they said its not worth it....blah blah blah.....

I've read that its good and junk.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

It just sounds like that shop isn't willing to put in the work to make it happen for you, but it can be done at least relatively easily from what I heard. I'm saving for the HKS ZC gears though.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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Default Re: B16a Cam gears on a DOHC ZC!!!!!! (DJ_SaNdOz)

JUN makes cam gears for the ZC.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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Thanks guys I'll make em throw them on there.....lolz
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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Got back from the shiop...no gears installed...

they said they had to be spaced out and this and that and that the benefits aren't worth it......blah!!

Anyone got pics of b16a cam gears on a ZC?? thanks..
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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Ask and Ye Shall receive



Not the Best pic in the World but you get the idea......When you time the motor you have to use the 5mm Dowel pins the B Series Marks will not TDC, if they are you will be 10.5 Degrees out on the Exhaust cam. There is no Shimming involved period....The gears are a tad bit thick for the belt, but thats no big deal. Have any other questions feel free to PM me, I have worked with these motors alot and currently I am running a Built All Motor ZC
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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thanks....I'll be getting gear soon just sold my JG ones.....

You'll have to explain the dowell pin....thanks homie I'll hit ya up for sure!!
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe HKS discontinued the ZC gears, and the JUN ones are pieces of ****. (that last part is personal opinion of course)
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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That may be true about HKS, as far as June- what caused that opinion to be formed?
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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Last set of JUN gears I saw looked like they had taken a set of rusty, old, stock gears, cut the spokes on them, bolted a plate to the back of it, then added some bolts for adjustability. Total crap looking. Just wasn't impressed at all, especially coming from a "reputable tuner" like JUN. Sorry. Just kind of venting. I was just upset when one of my customers spent their money on something and got some crap like that. Some people may not mind, but I'm just kind of **** about quality of things. It just looked half assed to me.
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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I have always heard that for the ZC application Jun did just take stock gears & make them adjustable- I just never imagined that they would use a used part.
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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it makes no sense to get cam gears for zc's they have a sensor on the exhaust
side cam that makes the cam timing perfect just by cams dont waist your money
or time
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHc SIdE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it makes no sense to get cam gears for zc's they have a sensor on the exhaust
side cam that makes the cam timing perfect just by cams dont waist your money
or time </TD></TR></TABLE>

Um, NO. The ZC isn't a K20 bro. By your logic I could just slap on a t belt & drive away- you still need cam gears to advance/retard the cam timing.
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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What DJ said. That sensor doesnt change anything.
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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yeah I don't even have that sensor.....so it doesn't do what you say it does...
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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that sensor is there to tell you if the cam timing has jumped a tooth essentially. If the cam timing is off it will throw a CEL to tell you to fix it; you probably do have that sensor- it is a green plug near the front of the valve cover by the dizzy.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 06:59 AM
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nah, my ZC is OBD 1 and the cam angle sensor is incorporated into the dizzy from what I know.....
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:05 AM
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b series and zc gears have the same gears,mounting etc.....but the b16 gear is wider.....thats the ONLY difference
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaosbob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Last set of JUN gears I saw looked like they had taken a set of rusty, old, stock gears, cut the spokes on them, bolted a plate to the back of it, then added some bolts for adjustability. Total crap looking. Just wasn't impressed at all, especially coming from a "reputable tuner" like JUN. Sorry. Just kind of venting. I was just upset when one of my customers spent their money on something and got some crap like that. Some people may not mind, but I'm just kind of **** about quality of things. It just looked half assed to me.
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So spoon is crap too then if taking the old gears and using them makes it crap....

Its not about how pretty it looks......as long as they dont slip and work...then its a functional part.....
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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not wider...diff off set so to speak...I compared the two.....same width but when you mount them they sit a tab bit closer to the valve cover......still clear it and all but sit closer...
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:14 AM
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i don't understand the need for cam gears with stock cams...
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowCivicHmm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not wider...diff off set so to speak...I compared the two.....same width but when you mount them they sit a tab bit closer to the valve cover......still clear it and all but sit closer...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the info, I was under the impression that there were more differences
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