Has CART lost its marbles?
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Taken from Grandprix.com:
The latest word from the United States of America is that CART is about to be bought out by a conglomerate of team owners and will then relaunch itself with a new concept in entertainment, switching the races to big city street events and twinning them with major rock concerts. Thus there would be a race in the afternoon followed by a rock concert in the evening. Such an idea cuts down the running costs of such events and offers more to the fans and would attract new fans to both the sport and the music world. We hear that if all goes to plan the series will be called Motor Rock, or something along those lines. We hear that there is already funding for the project and that music partners are included in the possible deal.
We continue to hear that Bernie Ecclestone could be involved in the plans but it may be that FOM would only be a shareholder in the business to takeover some of the events which CART will drop as a result of the switch to street races only. The races that would then become available include the CART races at Laguna Seca, Portland, Mid-Ohio, Road America and possibly Mexico City. While not all of these would have any interest to F1 there is no doubt that the races in Mexico would be interesting as Brazil remains one of the least popular events on the F1 calendar but the sport needs a venue in Latin America. It would also provide the possibility for an F1 event on the West Coast of the United States. It is possible that the rumored San Francisco event would be part of the Motor Rock idea.
Twinning races and concerts is not new, the best early example of the genre being the F1 events in Adelaide in the 1980s and 1990s. Silverstone has taken to hosting a music event after the event and more recently the Warner Music Group has announced a deal with NASCAR for the September 6 event at Richmond International Raceway, which will be headlined as the Chevy Rock & Roll 400 and will feature pre-race concerts by Hootie & The Blowfish, Uncle Kracker and Trapt with other bands playing on Friday before the NASCAR Busch Series race.
Taken from Grandprix.com:
The latest word from the United States of America is that CART is about to be bought out by a conglomerate of team owners and will then relaunch itself with a new concept in entertainment, switching the races to big city street events and twinning them with major rock concerts. Thus there would be a race in the afternoon followed by a rock concert in the evening. Such an idea cuts down the running costs of such events and offers more to the fans and would attract new fans to both the sport and the music world. We hear that if all goes to plan the series will be called Motor Rock, or something along those lines. We hear that there is already funding for the project and that music partners are included in the possible deal.
We continue to hear that Bernie Ecclestone could be involved in the plans but it may be that FOM would only be a shareholder in the business to takeover some of the events which CART will drop as a result of the switch to street races only. The races that would then become available include the CART races at Laguna Seca, Portland, Mid-Ohio, Road America and possibly Mexico City. While not all of these would have any interest to F1 there is no doubt that the races in Mexico would be interesting as Brazil remains one of the least popular events on the F1 calendar but the sport needs a venue in Latin America. It would also provide the possibility for an F1 event on the West Coast of the United States. It is possible that the rumored San Francisco event would be part of the Motor Rock idea.
Twinning races and concerts is not new, the best early example of the genre being the F1 events in Adelaide in the 1980s and 1990s. Silverstone has taken to hosting a music event after the event and more recently the Warner Music Group has announced a deal with NASCAR for the September 6 event at Richmond International Raceway, which will be headlined as the Chevy Rock & Roll 400 and will feature pre-race concerts by Hootie & The Blowfish, Uncle Kracker and Trapt with other bands playing on Friday before the NASCAR Busch Series race.
Here we go again. I'll get it over with so we can move on with life...
CART is great, CART sucks, ovals suck, NASSCRAP is...crap, oval racers don't have any talent, F1 is godliness, F1 sucks, Jeff Gordon should be in F1, Jeff Gordon sucks, pretty much all road racing in the USA is amateur at best and crap at worst, street courses suck, street courses rock, all of the "real" road courses in the US are going to waste, F1 should race at Mid-Ohio, Indy sucks, Indy rocks, the Indy F1 race rocks even if the 500 sucks, the IRL sucks, Sarah Fisher sucks, Sarah's cool but Danika Patrick is more of a babe, Patrick sucks, Tracy should have won the 500, Tracy sucks, Tracy is fast but has a big mouth, IRL races are pretty damned good, Honda and Toyota suck for bailing on CART, Honda and Toyota did the smart thing and got out while the gettin' was good, professional racing is a sell-out like WWF, rock concerts are like the WWF, CART is a sell-out if it puts on concerts, SPEED sucks, SPEED at least shows road racing and rallying so quit bitching, you suck, I suck, and pretty much everything sucks to somebody.
Whew.
Kirk
CART is great, CART sucks, ovals suck, NASSCRAP is...crap, oval racers don't have any talent, F1 is godliness, F1 sucks, Jeff Gordon should be in F1, Jeff Gordon sucks, pretty much all road racing in the USA is amateur at best and crap at worst, street courses suck, street courses rock, all of the "real" road courses in the US are going to waste, F1 should race at Mid-Ohio, Indy sucks, Indy rocks, the Indy F1 race rocks even if the 500 sucks, the IRL sucks, Sarah Fisher sucks, Sarah's cool but Danika Patrick is more of a babe, Patrick sucks, Tracy should have won the 500, Tracy sucks, Tracy is fast but has a big mouth, IRL races are pretty damned good, Honda and Toyota suck for bailing on CART, Honda and Toyota did the smart thing and got out while the gettin' was good, professional racing is a sell-out like WWF, rock concerts are like the WWF, CART is a sell-out if it puts on concerts, SPEED sucks, SPEED at least shows road racing and rallying so quit bitching, you suck, I suck, and pretty much everything sucks to somebody.
Whew.
Kirk
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You forgot that Juan Pablo should be sucking in NASCAR, or is it NASCRAP?
NASUCK?
Suckingest bunch of sucks to ever suck a suck.
NASUCK?
Suckingest bunch of sucks to ever suck a suck.
I need you to clarify that for me Kirk.
You know, 'cause I'm all iggnant and stuff.
Scott, who says why the hell not? If all the talented drivers are elsewhere, might as well pump the attendance with Justin Timberlake.
Wheeeeee!!!!
You know, 'cause I'm all iggnant and stuff.
Scott, who says why the hell not? If all the talented drivers are elsewhere, might as well pump the attendance with Justin Timberlake.
Wheeeeee!!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here we go again. I'll get it over with so we can move on with life...
CART is great, CART sucks, ovals suck, NASSCRAP is...crap, oval racers don't have any talent, F1 is godliness, F1 sucks, Jeff Gordon should be in F1, Jeff Gordon sucks, pretty much all road racing in the USA is amateur at best and crap at worst, street courses suck, street courses rock, all of the "real" road courses in the US are going to waste, F1 should race at Mid-Ohio, Indy sucks, Indy rocks, the Indy F1 race rocks even if the 500 sucks, the IRL sucks, Sarah Fisher sucks, Sarah's cool but Danika Patrick is more of a babe, Patrick sucks, Tracy should have won the 500, Tracy sucks, Tracy is fast but has a big mouth, IRL races are pretty damned good, Honda and Toyota suck for bailing on CART, Honda and Toyota did the smart thing and got out while the gettin' was good, professional racing is a sell-out like WWF, rock concerts are like the WWF, CART is a sell-out if it puts on concerts, SPEED sucks, SPEED at least shows road racing and rallying so quit bitching, you suck, I suck, and pretty much everything sucks to somebody.
Whew.
Kirk</TD></TR></TABLE>
you suck for beating everyone to complaining about everything that sucks and argueing about with yourself! spread the wealth for chrisakes!
btw, this sounds like a compilation of Rick Patino quotes.
nate
CART is great, CART sucks, ovals suck, NASSCRAP is...crap, oval racers don't have any talent, F1 is godliness, F1 sucks, Jeff Gordon should be in F1, Jeff Gordon sucks, pretty much all road racing in the USA is amateur at best and crap at worst, street courses suck, street courses rock, all of the "real" road courses in the US are going to waste, F1 should race at Mid-Ohio, Indy sucks, Indy rocks, the Indy F1 race rocks even if the 500 sucks, the IRL sucks, Sarah Fisher sucks, Sarah's cool but Danika Patrick is more of a babe, Patrick sucks, Tracy should have won the 500, Tracy sucks, Tracy is fast but has a big mouth, IRL races are pretty damned good, Honda and Toyota suck for bailing on CART, Honda and Toyota did the smart thing and got out while the gettin' was good, professional racing is a sell-out like WWF, rock concerts are like the WWF, CART is a sell-out if it puts on concerts, SPEED sucks, SPEED at least shows road racing and rallying so quit bitching, you suck, I suck, and pretty much everything sucks to somebody.
Whew.
Kirk</TD></TR></TABLE>
you suck for beating everyone to complaining about everything that sucks and argueing about with yourself! spread the wealth for chrisakes!
btw, this sounds like a compilation of Rick Patino quotes.
nate
If this means I can see a few more Molson Indy Vancouver races before CART goes to it's eternal resting place, I'll take it. I heard somewhere that racing costs money, and the money has to come from somewhere. As long as Timberlake doesn't bump the amateur support race I'm all for it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Whew.
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It works best if you say it out loud, all in one breath.
Whew.
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It works best if you say it out loud, all in one breath.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here we go again. I'll get it over with so we can move on with life...
CART is great, CART sucks, ovals suck, NASSCRAP is...crap, oval racers don't have any talent, F1 is godliness, F1 sucks, Jeff Gordon should be in F1, Jeff Gordon sucks, pretty much all road racing in the USA is amateur at best and crap at worst, street courses suck, street courses rock, all of the "real" road courses in the US are going to waste, F1 should race at Mid-Ohio, Indy sucks, Indy rocks, the Indy F1 race rocks even if the 500 sucks, the IRL sucks, Sarah Fisher sucks, Sarah's cool but Danika Patrick is more of a babe, Patrick sucks, Tracy should have won the 500, Tracy sucks, Tracy is fast but has a big mouth, IRL races are pretty damned good, Honda and Toyota suck for bailing on CART, Honda and Toyota did the smart thing and got out while the gettin' was good, professional racing is a sell-out like WWF, rock concerts are like the WWF, CART is a sell-out if it puts on concerts, SPEED sucks, SPEED at least shows road racing and rallying so quit bitching, you suck, I suck, and pretty much everything sucks to somebody.</TD></TR></TABLE>
LMAO! Nice summary of just about everyone's thoughts!
CART is great, CART sucks, ovals suck, NASSCRAP is...crap, oval racers don't have any talent, F1 is godliness, F1 sucks, Jeff Gordon should be in F1, Jeff Gordon sucks, pretty much all road racing in the USA is amateur at best and crap at worst, street courses suck, street courses rock, all of the "real" road courses in the US are going to waste, F1 should race at Mid-Ohio, Indy sucks, Indy rocks, the Indy F1 race rocks even if the 500 sucks, the IRL sucks, Sarah Fisher sucks, Sarah's cool but Danika Patrick is more of a babe, Patrick sucks, Tracy should have won the 500, Tracy sucks, Tracy is fast but has a big mouth, IRL races are pretty damned good, Honda and Toyota suck for bailing on CART, Honda and Toyota did the smart thing and got out while the gettin' was good, professional racing is a sell-out like WWF, rock concerts are like the WWF, CART is a sell-out if it puts on concerts, SPEED sucks, SPEED at least shows road racing and rallying so quit bitching, you suck, I suck, and pretty much everything sucks to somebody.</TD></TR></TABLE>
LMAO! Nice summary of just about everyone's thoughts!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vantage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like a ***** pump.
Not that I would know what one looks like...</TD></TR></TABLE>
[austin powers voice]really baby! it's not mine![/austin powers voice]
nate
Not that I would know what one looks like...</TD></TR></TABLE>
[austin powers voice]really baby! it's not mine![/austin powers voice]
nate
Ahh so what? Let's face it. The days of "yore" are gone, with regard to racing ... it's been incorporated, conglomerized, and turned into a commodity. Racing's always been about money (use to be how much of your own green you had), but now it's about sponsor money, and getting someone else to drop a wad on your ambitions. Either way, we're going to have to accept that a certain degree of allure, and romance, is leaving motorsport, and in it's place has come the silcone ritzy "ambiance" of las vegas style showcasing... it'll make the sport money, but will undeniably always feel cheap, and pimped. Deep down it bothers me, but having attended the Monaco GP this year, I can say that even at it's most commercial level (if you can see past the vendors, the merchendise, the endless commercials, posters, banners, etc...) it's still a guy ,a car, and the chase to find the quickest way 'round the next bend. Auto racing has never been a rational entity... it's insane, and a waste of resources, but at least back then it didn't matter because it was "charming." Now the only way to justify such "reckless" waste it to make it profitable; if it'll make someone money... you can justify doing just about anything.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but I don't think "Champ Car **** Rock Tour" is very cool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Seems as though nothing is sacred anymore!
Seems as though nothing is sacred anymore!
Though I agree that this idea sounds crazy at best, I would pay a decent chunk of change to see F1 at Mid-Ohio and then watch 311 afterward. (311 rules! 311 sucks! All bands that aren't the Roots suck! People who are white and like the Roots suck!...and so on.)
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