My brother is in the market for a new car and has narrowed his choices down to a '97 CW ITR or a 1986.5 Porsche 928S. Both cars are in perfect condition inside and out.

TIA guys.

 

good luck finding parts for that 928s...
And don't forget you are in a Type R forum

 

If it were a 944 I'd take the Porsche, but the 928 is a difficult and (usually) expensive car to work on.

Later 928s with the DOHC 32v engine are impressive, though.

 

ITR would be more reliable...

But then there is always that paranoia thing.

 

I can't think of two cars that are more different. One is a nimble lightweight car, one is a high-powered heavy car. One is a sports car built for the track, one is a sport luxury coupe built for cruising. One is FWD, one is RWD. And on and on.

Tell him to drive both, and then decide.

 

My ex-coworker dumped his 89 928S4 because its just so junk quality as it age and that everytime he damage a part or loose something on the highway, its always $500.00 range. Example: Undertray engine cover = $400.00, Front windshieldn = $900.00, ECU dead (ignition coil related) Used one = $1,200.00 vs new = $2k. Good Luck

 

I have an R and my brother jsut bought a gorgeous 928. I like the 928, but it is a totally different car than the R - it is all about what you are looking for.

 

Since I work for a company that makes Porsche parts, I'm gonna rock the boat here

I'd rather have a 928, if only because I wouldn't have to baby-sit it as much

 

ITR!

 

For some reason, I love the 928, especially the 928S4. I wouldn't mind having one but I still want the ITR tho.

 

itr

 

always loved the 928....

 

Type R owns All.

 

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The 944 is a slow POS. I dont consider it a real porsche.

 

I've had a fair amount of seat time in a 928S4, 944S2, and many 911's back when I worked at an exotic auto dealership. Have to say the 928S4 was the most boring of those Porsche's IMO. Very nice car, lots of gusto, but a slushbox and all that weight made it very different feeling from the already diverse 944 and 911. If it's just a regular non-S4 version of the 928, I'd be even less inclined to consider it. Again, very nice car, it's still a Porsche, but the ITR is much more entertaining to drive and the repair bill savings will literally allow you to buy another (inexpensive) car.

Parts are rather hard to come by for the old 928's as I'm often reminded by a co-worker who owns one and complains about delays, exorbitant cost, and unavailability in some cases.

 

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The 356 and the 912, cars that Dr Porsche had his hands on, personally, were a hell of a lot slower than the 944. What about the 924? What about the 914? Are those too slow to be "real" Porsches?

Don't you think that Dr Porsche was a better judge of what to put his name on than any of us could be?

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I dont know if Porsche really wanted to put their name on it. They designed it for Audi, audi didn't want it, so porsche took it. Probably more of an $$$ consideration. Whats it, something like 0-60 in 8 seconds? Thats NOT a porsche.

I dont know anything about the other models you mentioned. I worked with a guy who had a 944, and at first I was impressed that he owned a porshe. When I rode in it, and he floored it, I couldn't believe it. The stationwagon I was driving at the time was literally faster!

 

My father, in full mid-life-crisis mode, picked up a Euro-spec 1980 Porsche 928S last summer. It is the Euro version, so it has 300HP as opposed to the 220hp that the US got that year. It weighs just under 2900lbs thanks to extensive use of aluminum in the body - perhaps a bit heavy for 1980, but that's a feather weight compared to today's cars. He got it for $7500. He has not had any problems with it so far. All he has done to it is preventive maintenance. Oil changes are a bit pricey due to the fact that it takes over 8qts of oil to fill up. The most he has spent on it was $200 for a set of new OEM spark plug wires. It's actually a very fun car to drive. The power on tap is ridiculous, and it's very fast. The closest thing I would compare it to would be maybe a 350Z or a Corvette.

If this was to be a daily driver, I'd definitely get the Integra. If this was to be a 2nd car/weekend car, the Porche would be an option.

Andrew

 

I love 928's, but I'd only take a 928GT or 928GTS. So I'd have to say Hype-R fo shizzle muh nizzle.

 

There was a 914-8? I've heard of the 914-6, but never the 8. And having driven a few 914s, I wouldn't call them fast, but they definitely had that "Porsche-feeling," no matter what it was originally intended for. If I found one in good condition for a cheap price, I'd ****** it up in a second. Just as a sidenote (er, another sidenote...), the Spec 944 guys seem pretty damn fast. I drove a 944 turbo a few years ago and was really disappointed, but I guess given the proper maintenance, a few choices mods and a good driver, it can be quick. Sorry to get OT there. To get back on topic, I've also heard nothing but bad things about 928 reliability from several Porsche mechanics.

 

I'd have to say thwe Type R. I love Porsche's but the only one I have ever wanted was an 1970's 911S. I would love one of those

 

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The 944 is a slow POS. I dont consider it a real porsche.


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Spoken like someone who has never driven one.

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For an early model. Which puts it about even with a late model Ferrari 308.

For a brand new car in the early-mid '80s 0-60 in 8 seconds was quick.

 

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I rode in one everyday for 6 months...

 

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Tell ya a little secret. '72 and '73 911E will outrun the previous and successor 911S. And the '72 and '73 911S is a real runner.
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And let's not get started on the 2,200 lb. '73-'74 911RS.

 

Not fair at all, particularly since they were never sold in the US, but hey, since I'll most likely never own a vintage 911 I'll daydream about the most lust-inspiring model.

Although an '83 911SC can be had for ~$15,000. And that's tempting...

 

That 916 sounds like a fantastic car...I don't think I've sat in a car that was lower to the ground on the street either, which was soooo cool. The 914, that is.