you think a b18b could handle 100 shot on stock bottom end? im gonna be gettin the zex kit prolly, im gonna do minor headwork, and fuel system...think it can be done?

 

done it for 2 years on a stock fuel system, 95 shot. used race fuel only.

 

What are you doing with the fuel system? With proper injectors and tuning you should be fine.

 

what do you guys think i should do with my timing on a nitrous setup like that?

 

colder plugs, race fuel, retard timing just a little bit, and you should be okay. just check plugs after every run or so. i ran an wet single fogger 80 shot on my ls when it was stock. did it for a few months and then went turbo.

 

If you don't want to run race gas you could get by with pump gas if you retard the timing a little more.

 

awesome guys, thanks for the info...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">done it for 2 years on a stock fuel system, 95 shot. used race fuel only.</TD></TR></TABLE>

stock fuel system i dont believe. unless you got magic **** in your car

 

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stock fuel system i dont believe. unless you got magic **** in your car</TD></TR></TABLE>

He is right. You'd HAVE to upgrade the fuel system at least. 240cc injectors (if using dry system) and 135lph fuel pump won't handle it.

 

my thoughts exactly

 

i know for a fact it wont , unless theres something he's not telling .
i tried 85 shot dry when i 1st started with nitrous, aem fpr and aem rail , stock injectors stock pump , i ran like 17:1 a/f and almost blew my motor.
thabnk god i didnt , after that got a walbro 255 and ran like a dream

 

you think i could run 100 shot on stock bottom end with fuel pump, regulator, rail, and injectors? i think it could easily be done

 

why zex?
go with a wet or dp kit from another company.

 

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go with a wet or dp kit from another company.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What's wrong with Zex?

 

yea whats wrong with zex...i hear more horror stories about nx and nos than zex anyday. They have a wet kit now...dont hate till you try

 

anything over 75 i would recommend a direct port WET kit. the DRY kits just dont cut it becuase yoru car will not supply enough fuel to compensate for the increase in oxygen etcc. WEt kit will supply nitrous AND fuel through the fogger. direct port 100 shot with upgraded fuel pump would be the way to go, along with 2 step colder plugs.

 

i am running a 110 shot dual stage with dual foggers (wet) on a stock motor gsr with a 255 in tank pump 310 cc injectors colder plugs and i pulled 2 deg of timming and a areomotive fpr and she takes it like a champ

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anything over 75 i would recommend a direct port WET kit. the DRY kits just dont cut it becuase yoru car will not supply enough fuel to compensate for the increase in oxygen etcc. WEt kit will supply nitrous AND fuel through the fogger. direct port 100 shot with upgraded fuel pump would be the way to go, along with 2 step colder plugs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ever heard of bigger injectors?

 

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Ever heard of bigger injectors?</TD></TR></TABLE>


I believe hes refering to the possibility of the nitrous and fuel not being evenly distributed throughout all 4 cylinders when being sucked through the intake manifold, which in result will cause you to detonate. In that case hes right DPI would be the way to go imo

 

right now i am doing this with 2 singgle foggers

one is a 75 shot and the other is a 35 shot i run a bit rich but richer is better then lean

soon as i put my 310's in i have been burning less plugs up

 

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I believe hes refering to the possibility of the nitrous and fuel not being evenly distributed throughout all 4 cylinders when being sucked through the intake manifold, which in result will cause you to detonate. In that case hes right DPI would be the way to go imo</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is the goal of the intake manifold not to distribute air evenly among cylinders? Honda engineers spend countless hours on making the design to best flow and distribute the air. The whole thing against dry systems is a stupid Honda Tech trend. Ask the V8 guys what they run with their dry single foggers. I bet most of them will tell you it's more than a 150 shot. Who here has actually ran more than a 75 shot dry and had problems with it if they had the proper fuel upgrades?

 

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Is the goal of the intake manifold not to distribute air evenly among cylinders? Honda engineers spend countless hours on making the design to best flow and distribute the air. The whole thing against dry systems is a stupid Honda Tech trend. Ask the V8 guys what they run with their dry single foggers. I bet most of them will tell you it's more than a 150 shot. Who here has actually ran more than a 75 shot dry and had problems with it if they had the proper fuel upgrades? </TD></TR></TABLE>

most V8 guys run "insane" amounts of nitrous compared to us sport compact owners, these guys spray 200 shot on their stock V8's while the most a lot of people on honda-tech or honda made motors at that spray at max of a 120 direct port.

 

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most V8 guys run "insane" amounts of nitrous compared to us sport compact owners, these guys spray 200 shot on their stock V8's while the most a lot of people on honda-tech or honda made motors at that spray at max of a 120 direct port. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, why wouldn't the V8's have distribution problems with a dry kit? They run huge shots of dry nitrous.

 

I am spraying az total of a 110 shot on my bone stock GSR motor with the right fuel upgrades and adjestments and she is loveing the bottle.

Steve

 

i sprayed 140-150hp or 105whp on a stock ls/vtec for about 6 monthes with no problems.