I got a Hondata S200 from KS-motorsports for my OBD-1 PR4. I was throwing no codes prior to the installation. After installing the hondata, I am now throwing code 20 (ELD) and 22 (VTEC switch).

I had asked for a baseline chip with proper fueling with 450cc injectors and backed off timing for high compression. Driving the car with the hondata and CEL on with timing set back at anywhere from 14-18 degrees, and trying different fuel pressures gives the same results. The car will bog completely when giving anywhere over 15-20% throttle. At 5100rpm, there is something going on, like a rev limiter...

I believe the ROM was just programmed incorrectly, and my car is only bogging and acting completely undriveable because of missing VTEC sensors, and that the "rev limiter" at 5100rpm is maybe my VTEC crossover... I'm also being told by KS that its possible he had not programmed the chip right and that baselines are never perfect and this is normal. I consider the car undriveable!

I was under the assumption that it is possible to get a map working normally with the ECU until you get it tuned (i.e. stock map with retarded timing and proper injector compensation). What are other people's baseline experiences? Is it that hard to get the car running decently or is my baseline just programmed wrong.

 

just go in and get tuned, or mail it back and get it re-burned.

 

genious!

my tuner is booked solid till august 18th, and is a 6 hour drive away. mailing it back really sucks because it is a daily driver, and running with the stock ECU with 450cc injectors is not a good idea.

my question is, is ks-motorsports correct in saying that this is normal for a baseline to run crappy like this or is it because he burned a bad ROM?

 

All else being the same both pre and post install...

The chip is probably the culprit. I'm going to guess it wasn't burned with the anywhere close to what you needed, hence the reasoning behind traveling 6 hours and getting it reburned/tuned right (in person) so as to fulfill its original purpose.

 

Obviously this chip was just to get the car running with a slightly stock map so I can run the car with 450cc injectors and safter ignition timing. Am I asking too much for a baseline?

 

2 options, Get the map reburned by Kyle, or live with and don't drive over 5000 until you get it tuned. Getting a base map perfect first time via long distance can be difficult, it's not Kyle's fault it's not perfect.

 

I can't press on the throttle any more than 15-20%. I'm not complaining about having a 5000rpm redline.