best GC spring rates '95 hatch?
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best GC spring rates '95 hatch?
i recently got some Limited Edition GCs for a pretty good price but the rates are very low (200f, 180r) and im planning on buying custom rates at a later date...
And I was wondering which rates you guys have had the best experience with? I dont want incredibly high rates as I am going to be pairing them with KYB AGX and its a daily driver.
thanks,
sean
And I was wondering which rates you guys have had the best experience with? I dont want incredibly high rates as I am going to be pairing them with KYB AGX and its a daily driver.
thanks,
sean
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (Tyson)
man, i just don't understand why people insist on coming over here to see what rates we recommend for street driving.. it's a Road Racing/Autocross forum people, not a Quotes for Street Springs forum.. 
as far as a recommendation, i'd say go with 700f and 900r.. that should keep you happy for street driving..
sorry, i had to..
as far as a recommendation, i'd say go with 700f and 900r.. that should keep you happy for street driving..
sorry, i had to..
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (bojangs)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bojangs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as far as a recommendation, i'd say go with 700f and 900r.. that should keep you happy for street driving.. sorry, i had to..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mmmmm....OTS KYB's should dampen that nicely.
He's right though. Not steet rates.
sorry, i had to..</TD></TR></TABLE>Mmmmm....OTS KYB's should dampen that nicely.
He's right though. Not steet rates.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (Sean EH2)
I bet the guy is reading the spring rate wrong. Those numers seems more like spring length.
tell us the numbers on the spring as is, then i can tell u the spring rates for sure.
tell us the numbers on the spring as is, then i can tell u the spring rates for sure.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (Sean EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sean EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And I was wondering which rates you guys have had the best experience with?</TD></TR></TABLE>
On my DC2 I've been through the following:
375F/425R on off the shelf Konis
425F/600R on off the shelf Konis
600F/1000R on custom-valved Konis
The 600/1000 is by far the best setup. It's otherworldly how good the car is like this...it does exactly what I tell it to do, except that it never understeers ever, until late in a race when the tires have gotten real hot.
Anything much stiffer than this and I think you'll suffer on rougher tracks. I autocrossed the car last weekend on the current 600/1000 and it was actually *airborn* across one of the larger bumps on the course. So for an autocrosser you might soften it up a bit.
But for what it's worth, I thought even the 375/425 was a little tiresome when I drove the car to work.
On my DC2 I've been through the following:
375F/425R on off the shelf Konis
425F/600R on off the shelf Konis
600F/1000R on custom-valved Konis
The 600/1000 is by far the best setup. It's otherworldly how good the car is like this...it does exactly what I tell it to do, except that it never understeers ever, until late in a race when the tires have gotten real hot.
Anything much stiffer than this and I think you'll suffer on rougher tracks. I autocrossed the car last weekend on the current 600/1000 and it was actually *airborn* across one of the larger bumps on the course. So for an autocrosser you might soften it up a bit.
But for what it's worth, I thought even the 375/425 was a little tiresome when I drove the car to work.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (krshultz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krshultz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
On my DC2 I've been through the following:
375F/425R on off the shelf Konis
425F/600R on off the shelf Konis
600F/1000R on custom-valved Konis
The 600/1000 is by far the best setup. It's otherworldly how good the car is like this...it does exactly what I tell it to do, except that it never understeers ever, until late in a race when the tires have gotten real hot.
Anything much stiffer than this and I think you'll suffer on rougher tracks. I autocrossed the car last weekend on the current 600/1000 and it was actually *airborn* across one of the larger bumps on the course. So for an autocrosser you might soften it up a bit.
But for what it's worth, I thought even the 375/425 was a little tiresome when I drove the car to work.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my ef with 440/600 went airborne on the interstate to my race last weekend and i nearly pissed my pants.
for a eg for street get some 250/350
On my DC2 I've been through the following:
375F/425R on off the shelf Konis
425F/600R on off the shelf Konis
600F/1000R on custom-valved Konis
The 600/1000 is by far the best setup. It's otherworldly how good the car is like this...it does exactly what I tell it to do, except that it never understeers ever, until late in a race when the tires have gotten real hot.
Anything much stiffer than this and I think you'll suffer on rougher tracks. I autocrossed the car last weekend on the current 600/1000 and it was actually *airborn* across one of the larger bumps on the course. So for an autocrosser you might soften it up a bit.
But for what it's worth, I thought even the 375/425 was a little tiresome when I drove the car to work.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my ef with 440/600 went airborne on the interstate to my race last weekend and i nearly pissed my pants.
for a eg for street get some 250/350
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (Sean EH2)
350's out back , keep the fronts at 200 , its very fun just like that
anymore than that and your KYB's will be shortlived.
oh and even a little toothpick GS-R bar out back will do the most wondeful things...
anymore than that and your KYB's will be shortlived.
oh and even a little toothpick GS-R bar out back will do the most wondeful things...
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (Mr Milano)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nope. GC rates for 92-00 civic are defenetley a puny 200F 180R. Trust me</TD></TR></TABLE>
So what exactly are all the numbers on the springs if u dont mind.
So what exactly are all the numbers on the springs if u dont mind.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (HondaCivicEx98)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicEx98 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So what exactly are all the numbers on the springs if u dont mind.
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the part numbers for the different kits , can you imagine someone having to hand pick each set of springs to box up a coilover kit...
they do those numbers for ease of use in house.
when you order any springs outside the OTS kits then the numbers follow standard logic.
So what exactly are all the numbers on the springs if u dont mind.
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the part numbers for the different kits , can you imagine someone having to hand pick each set of springs to box up a coilover kit...
they do those numbers for ease of use in house.
when you order any springs outside the OTS kits then the numbers follow standard logic.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (Doctor CorteZ)
Never seen so much hostility in the rr forum, kinda a bummer thats why I like it so much. 
Anyways I reread his post and I think he wants a daily driver...perhaps he also wants to autox also but didn't put it in the post.
Anyways .RJ and some other great folks here in rr suggested that I use 300f/400r on that exact same set-up you have.
Well I went with what was available at the time and got 330f/400r and I love it!
The best thing is my car doesn't bounce down the street anymore it more or less made it more stable than those weak springs gc first sent me. As A matter of fact I pretty much hated the gc set-up until I upgraded the spring weights.
Go with the 330/400's you will not regret it, although you may upgrade the entire set-up later.
Anyways I reread his post and I think he wants a daily driver...perhaps he also wants to autox also but didn't put it in the post.
Anyways .RJ and some other great folks here in rr suggested that I use 300f/400r on that exact same set-up you have.
Well I went with what was available at the time and got 330f/400r and I love it!
The best thing is my car doesn't bounce down the street anymore it more or less made it more stable than those weak springs gc first sent me. As A matter of fact I pretty much hated the gc set-up until I upgraded the spring weights.
Go with the 330/400's you will not regret it, although you may upgrade the entire set-up later.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (RangerDan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Never seen so much hostility in the rr forum, kinda a bummer thats why I like it so much.
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are you refering to my post ? I wasent hostile in the least , I answered the question in clearly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyways I reread his post and I think he wants a daily driver...perhaps he also wants to autox also but didn't put it in the post.
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thus the reason I stated what springs I think to be ideal with AGX's
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyways .RJ and some other great folks here in rr suggested that I use 300f/400r on that exact same set-up you have.
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those rates are too close IMO , anything more in the front and the car will push. any higher rates in the rear and the dampers cannot keep up.
I would rather be overdampened and undersprung than over sprung and underdampened.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it more or less made it more stable than those weak springs gc first sent me.
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all the effects you are noticing comes from the rear rates , not the front.
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are you refering to my post ? I wasent hostile in the least , I answered the question in clearly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyways I reread his post and I think he wants a daily driver...perhaps he also wants to autox also but didn't put it in the post.
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thus the reason I stated what springs I think to be ideal with AGX's
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyways .RJ and some other great folks here in rr suggested that I use 300f/400r on that exact same set-up you have.
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those rates are too close IMO , anything more in the front and the car will push. any higher rates in the rear and the dampers cannot keep up.
I would rather be overdampened and undersprung than over sprung and underdampened.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it more or less made it more stable than those weak springs gc first sent me.
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all the effects you are noticing comes from the rear rates , not the front.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (Doctor CorteZ)
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are you refering to my post ? I wasent hostile in the least , I answered the question in clearly.
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No Doc wasn't referring to you in the least. The hostiles are at the top of the post.
You sir are ok in my book...not that it means anything I guess...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »
Anyways .RJ and some other great folks here in rr suggested that I use 300f/400r on that exact same set-up you have.
those rates are too close IMO , anything more in the front and the car will push. any higher rates in the rear and the dampers cannot keep up.
I would rather be overdampened and undersprung than over sprung and underdampened.
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I didn't mention in my post that I have a b18c itr swap. Which Im assuming would be the reason for the 300f's
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »
it more or less made it more stable than those weak springs gc first sent me.
all the effects you are noticing comes from the rear rates , not the front.
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Very True. My springs arrived from two different H-T members on seperate days and I put the fronts in first and didn't feel a lot of difference.
are you refering to my post ? I wasent hostile in the least , I answered the question in clearly.
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No Doc wasn't referring to you in the least. The hostiles are at the top of the post.
You sir are ok in my book...not that it means anything I guess...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »
Anyways .RJ and some other great folks here in rr suggested that I use 300f/400r on that exact same set-up you have.
those rates are too close IMO , anything more in the front and the car will push. any higher rates in the rear and the dampers cannot keep up.
I would rather be overdampened and undersprung than over sprung and underdampened.
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I didn't mention in my post that I have a b18c itr swap. Which Im assuming would be the reason for the 300f's
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »
it more or less made it more stable than those weak springs gc first sent me.
all the effects you are noticing comes from the rear rates , not the front.
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Very True. My springs arrived from two different H-T members on seperate days and I put the fronts in first and didn't feel a lot of difference.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (HondaCivicEx98)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicEx98 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So what exactly are all the numbers on the springs if u dont mind.
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If you go to the sticky posted in the rr forum there is a faq section where the information is invaluable.
So what exactly are all the numbers on the springs if u dont mind.
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If you go to the sticky posted in the rr forum there is a faq section where the information is invaluable.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (RangerDan)
[quote]the part numbers for the different kits , can you imagine someone having to hand pick each set of springs to box up a coilover kit...[quote]
Is not like they are selling 10000 kit a day and only one guy working. Besides, eibach makes the spring not GC, so i would spec a standard specification on the springs.
Besides, how can some one assume 200f 180F are spring rates?
Keep in mind, that stock springs rates are in 160-200f 80-120R, depending on which car. Now GC will use such a soft spring rate for people to lower there vehicle.
This mean hitting bumpstops on every bump specially for the front. Which means it doesnt make any sense.
Unless i see the number on the springs, 200F 180R are most likely 200mm Free length.
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Is not like they are selling 10000 kit a day and only one guy working. Besides, eibach makes the spring not GC, so i would spec a standard specification on the springs.
Besides, how can some one assume 200f 180F are spring rates?
Keep in mind, that stock springs rates are in 160-200f 80-120R, depending on which car. Now GC will use such a soft spring rate for people to lower there vehicle.
This mean hitting bumpstops on every bump specially for the front. Which means it doesnt make any sense.
Unless i see the number on the springs, 200F 180R are most likely 200mm Free length.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (HondaCivicEx98)
Are you kidding me? No one is "assuming" that they are 200F 180R. THEY ARE PERIOD. Call up Ground Control (530) 677 - 8600. Ask them how to read the numbers on the spring since obviously you are oblivious as how to do this. Then upon learning that go apply that knowledge to your own application. The numbers include spring height/diameter/and rate. They are not 200mm springs and 180mm springs. Why would they use 7.86" springs up front and 7.06" springs out back? The rates are made to creat a stock like ride using linear springs. If you want a performance application, give them a call. They will set you up with exactly what meets your needs.
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Re: best GC spring rates '95 hatch? (HondaCivicEx98)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicEx98 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Besides, how can some one assume 200f 180F are spring rates?
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dont assume , CALL THEM DIRECT.
its pretty common knowledge anyway , no assuming needed.
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This mean hitting bumpstops on every bump specially for the front. Which means it doesnt make any sense.
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um , yeah.
I'm on 200 front with a B series and KYB's , I've never hit the bumpstops EVER.
even with the 2000 track miles I've logged on this setup.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicEx98 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless i see the number on the springs, 200F 180R are most likely 200mm Free length.
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did you want the phone number to call them ?
no need to look at the numbers if it comes directly from the horses mouth.
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dont assume , CALL THEM DIRECT.
its pretty common knowledge anyway , no assuming needed.
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This mean hitting bumpstops on every bump specially for the front. Which means it doesnt make any sense.
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um , yeah.
I'm on 200 front with a B series and KYB's , I've never hit the bumpstops EVER.
even with the 2000 track miles I've logged on this setup.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaCivicEx98 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless i see the number on the springs, 200F 180R are most likely 200mm Free length.
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did you want the phone number to call them ?
no need to look at the numbers if it comes directly from the horses mouth.
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perhaps you guys misunderstood..im hoping to use my car as a weekend autoXer in STS but i was making sure people didn't suggest rock-hard rates by saying its a daily driver..
its a race car forum eh? so everyone in the forum that autocrosses has a fully dedicated race car? i highly doubt that...bojangs i just dont understand why you're such an *** that doesn't seem to understand that i dont have a couple extra thousand dollars to have a full race Civic. hooray for ignorance
the numbers read
f: 200.64.67
r: 180.64.44
i have no idea how to read them but i asked a friend thats #1 in our region SM and he told me it was 200f 180r.
thanks to those that posted useful things
its a race car forum eh? so everyone in the forum that autocrosses has a fully dedicated race car? i highly doubt that...bojangs i just dont understand why you're such an *** that doesn't seem to understand that i dont have a couple extra thousand dollars to have a full race Civic. hooray for ignorance
the numbers read
f: 200.64.67
r: 180.64.44
i have no idea how to read them but i asked a friend thats #1 in our region SM and he told me it was 200f 180r.
thanks to those that posted useful things
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Re: (Sean EH2)
you're friend is right.....they are indeed 200front 180 rear.
here is what I suggest....200for the front and 300 out back plus the addition of a rear sway-bar.
FWIW, my *daily driven* STS car has 380fr/450rear springs, but that's on koni's, and it's just fine on nasty St. Louis roads
here is what I suggest....200for the front and 300 out back plus the addition of a rear sway-bar.
FWIW, my *daily driven* STS car has 380fr/450rear springs, but that's on koni's, and it's just fine on nasty St. Louis roads
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Re: (Sean EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sean EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the numbers read
f: 200.64.67
r: 180.64.44
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I think Madd Matt cracked the code on these numbers, which are nothing at all like the numbers you see on most ERS springs. He used some bunch of metric stuff to make it make sense.
The 200/180 are possibly real rate numbers though.
f: 200.64.67
r: 180.64.44
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I think Madd Matt cracked the code on these numbers, which are nothing at all like the numbers you see on most ERS springs. He used some bunch of metric stuff to make it make sense.
The 200/180 are possibly real rate numbers though.
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yeah i was pretty sure he was correct...amazing driver...
seeing higher rear rates is nice..ive always thought it best to have strong rear rates than the front but springs are always offered with higher front rates... why?
thanks for the advice.
can i order custom rate springs directly from Ground-control?
seeing higher rear rates is nice..ive always thought it best to have strong rear rates than the front but springs are always offered with higher front rates... why?
thanks for the advice.
can i order custom rate springs directly from Ground-control?
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Re: (Sean EH2)
really, no one really reads my coilover faq huh.
How do I tell what my spring rates are?
Ground Control sells Eibach Race Springs (ERS) which are labelled by 3 different values in the following convention: length.diameter.spring rate. However, ERS will come labelled in either Metric (mm.mm.N/m) or English (inchx100.inchx100.lbs/inch) units. 180.64.61 is the same thing as 700.250.350. The conversion from Metric to English is (/.254, /.254, x5.7) "/" means "divide by", "x" means "multiply by".
8", 2.5", 382 lbs/in
7", 2.5", 280 lbs/in
MR milano, you are WRONG. get a clue.
sean, your rates are fine, switch the front and back first to see how you like that before buying anything. you might also want to correct your #1 driver friend...
Modified by Tyson at 12:13 PM 7/30/2003
How do I tell what my spring rates are?
Ground Control sells Eibach Race Springs (ERS) which are labelled by 3 different values in the following convention: length.diameter.spring rate. However, ERS will come labelled in either Metric (mm.mm.N/m) or English (inchx100.inchx100.lbs/inch) units. 180.64.61 is the same thing as 700.250.350. The conversion from Metric to English is (/.254, /.254, x5.7) "/" means "divide by", "x" means "multiply by".
8", 2.5", 382 lbs/in
7", 2.5", 280 lbs/in
MR milano, you are WRONG. get a clue.
sean, your rates are fine, switch the front and back first to see how you like that before buying anything. you might also want to correct your #1 driver friend...
Modified by Tyson at 12:13 PM 7/30/2003
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so my spring rates are actually
382f
280r
??
also, this formula doesn't seemto be "common knowledge" so when people say they have...for example. 450f 550r springs...where are they getting these numbers?
382f
280r
??
also, this formula doesn't seemto be "common knowledge" so when people say they have...for example. 450f 550r springs...where are they getting these numbers?