I had my TypeR for about 3 months now and it is bone stock. I think i have waited long enough and am ready for an intake but not sure which one to get. Please help me decide.


CW # 730

 

There is no AEM V2 for the ITR, only the original. As for which one is better, search with those parameters under "archived" threads.

 

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ditto

 

Stock makes the same power, if not more. Invest in a header if you want some real gains.

If you are going to get one (orig AEM or Comptech) I'd go with the comptech, and I have the AEM.

 

The AEM is great at first but after awhile it leaves you wanting another one.

 

um.. is'nt the LS integra V2 CAI the same as the Type R CAI?

 

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Don't think so.

 

well I know the original is like 2.5 for the ls and 3 in for the typer.

 

Don't waste your money on AEM; a good filter will do, but if you really want a full intake then just get the icebox and filter. The header is what gives you good power; look into that.

 

I love the comptech design, but I hate the filter, yeah it flows great, but mine goes from clean (blue) to dirty (brown) in a week....I'm thinking about just getting a K&N cone for it...Comptech guys: are you still running the foam comptech filter? How do you deal with the cleaning required all the time?

 

Hmm... my thoughts on the "AEM (either) vs. Comptech"...


Mugen CAI.

 

Here was a big intake test that was done recently by TPR on a Honda B-series VTEC motor.



I'd like to see some dyno charts for the Mugen CAI against some of these however. For it's extravagant price and how much it's praised around here I'd at least think someone has some objective measurements on it to see that it's not just riding on JDM butt dyno blingness.

 

Interesting stuff Josh.

It's interesting because the majority of those are all cold-air designs (was the Iceman a short ram or CAI). The DC and comptech are the only ones utilizing the short ram to my knowledge (may ICEMAN). What's really intesting is how the comptech drops off at the top. This is even more noticable because the DC begins to flatten out at the top, and looks like it would outperfom everything past 8k (as expected). I wonder if the Icebox is restricting the flow past 8k?

 

looks like the Comptech IceBox would be the best choice for people wanting mid range....which seems like a focus of alot of comptech products...daily usage....I'd rather use the comptech since I rarely push the car to the 8000rpm range....realistically how long do you stay in the 8000 rpm range?...split second that's all.....Yeah peak HP is great..but realistic usability is my concern....the Comptech and AEM V2 seems to aim for midrange power, but the Comptech still out performs the AEM V2...probably unnoticable to your ***, but on a dyno it tells of the 1-2hp efficiency...Comptech IceBox gets my

 

thanks for the plot. first time seeing it

 

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It's interesting because the majority of those are all cold-air designs (was the Iceman a short ram or CAI). The DC and comptech are the only ones utilizing the short ram to my knowledge (may ICEMAN). </TD></TR></TABLE>

As far as I know the Iceman and DC were both using their long tube extension setups.

 

Wow.

So the Comptech is the only aftermarket short ram (combo) in the box. Would have been interesting to see just a short ram in the test (J's, Comptech, DC,etc.)

 

TPR did have a seperate short ram intake test. Here's the website that had the test. I just plugged the numbers for the CAI's into Excel and came up with that chart.

http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_challenge.shtml

 

Thanks for the link.

As most of us will agree, the dyno isn't the best for evaluating intakes or other parts.

After reading about the test it is important to note:

1. No tuning is involved
2. Closed Hood runs - Take this as you like, some people think this better simulates the real world, other prefer open hood with a fan blowing. In both cases neither actual replicates engine temps at speed.
3. Same engine and tons of runs (engine wear, time and temp variation, etc).

Intesting nonetheless.

Cruzer

 

Dyno numbers don't mean anything when dealing with a cold air intake...you don't get the benefit from it while sitting still on a dyno. Personally, I run an AEM and love it. It is loud as hell but I got used to it.

 

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I can see your theoretical point when talking about the Comptech Icebox, because it has an intake that's supposed to give you some ram air effect from behind the parking light.

But...how does this apply to the AEM? Forgive me for being an igmo, but how is the AEM cold air going to be colder when the car is in motion if there's no ram air effect?

I'm sure I'm missing something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think it is less to say the AEM woudl be colder as much as it is to say that a short ram like a J's will recieve MUCH warmer temps with reduced fresh air flow when the car's hood is closed and in motion.

 

I just did my own little comparison on excel. I took into account peak numbers. Many of the intakes recorded peaks at 7600 or 7300. So I substituted values at 7500 for better reporesentation.

The differences between most of these intakes is pretty negligible. We're talking about 2-3 ft.lbs of torque at best. A dyno can vary that much when operated properly.

Overall, the short rams seemed to outperfom the CAI. I think we have seen this before anyways. When comparing the Comptech Pieces (Short Ram vs. Icebox) there appears to be no significant gains.

If your looking for a CAI, then the Comptech did outperform the other CAI in this test.

As discussed in previous threads, ambient air temps are still questionable. Sitting at a stoplight I think the difference in temp is more noticable, however, at speed I would tend to agree with SGT. and say that the temperature difference is also neglibile. Only time will tell though.

 

Comptech.

 

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I don't think K&N makes a cone shaped filter that will fit into the Ice box?

 

When will this end?

No one has a objective set of tests to prove which intake helps most.

Each intake needs to be tuned (road tuned? hondata + gsensor anyone?) individually on the same car for a proper comparison.

Until then, this is all talk. Who knows. I'll steadfastly stand behind my Mugen as the 'best' intake, and I didn't pay $600 for it, I paid a little bit more than the price of my J's, or the price of my AEM, so my opinion isn't jaded by spending enormous cash.

But to each his own. I have owned almost every 'big name' intake with the exception of the comptech, and i drove a car with almost identical mods and was NOT impressed. That is my opinion only, and until someone does some REAL intake comparisons, no one really knows which is the best.