Throttle Body Spacer: do they actually gain hp?
It looks to be more than a spacer. I didn't look at the ebay link, but just looking at the red peice, it has some grooves, looks like those "Tornado" things you can buy on TV.
Waste of money.
Waste of money.
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so the generic intakes and those fart can exhaust they sell at the shops add hp?
so the generic intakes and those fart can exhaust they sell at the shops add hp?
You must buy at pep-boys and autozone then, shop = reputable performance place. If you call any place that sells fart cans a shop then you need to move somewhere else...
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this is what they said in there ebay ad. if you buy this i will laugh at you
this is what they said in there ebay ad. if you buy this i will laugh at you
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These types of spacers were originally invented/used for carberated engines. They will no help our cars with throttle bodies mounted horizontally.
Performace shop = rip off!
I have never been to one performance shop that didn't sell junk. Then again maybe down in florida you guys don't have that problem, but up here in Jersey, this is the truth.
I have never been to one performance shop that didn't sell junk. Then again maybe down in florida you guys don't have that problem, but up here in Jersey, this is the truth.
I agree spacers were originally used on carb engines, for 2 reasons. #1 the spacer was usually made of a material that didnt transfer heat well, that way the carb didnt heat up the air fuel mix, in extreme cases so the fuel didnt boil in the bowl. #2 the carb spacer moved the carb up which increased the length of the runners making a normal im seem like the longer runner version.
As far as what this would do for any of our cars, I dont think a thing except lighten the wallet.
As far as what this would do for any of our cars, I dont think a thing except lighten the wallet.
never seen one...but it sure is pretty!
as for you guys ripping on performance shops...i own one, i personally don't think we're ripping people off, we do good work, and YES, WE SELL FART CANS! we don't tell people that they will automatically run 12's with them, but people like them, and we make money off of them. we also sell things like LED shift *****, generic cold air intakes, and other such "rice" products. wanna know why? they pay bills. plain and simple. people want them, will give us money for them, so why should we say, "sorry, that doesn't fall into the 'i'm cool cuz i have jdm stuff' category, so go look somewhere else." you people are all so quick to criticize performance shops. ever try running one and dealing with people like you? we do engine swaps, tranny swaps, custom cold air intakes, suspension/brake work, general repair, and more...so no, we don't just sell rice. besides, not everyone has the money or the endless desire to have everything JDM or Mugen. if everyone did have it, how "cool" would you be, anyway?
sorry to jack a bit of this thread, but i felt it was necessary.
as for you guys ripping on performance shops...i own one, i personally don't think we're ripping people off, we do good work, and YES, WE SELL FART CANS! we don't tell people that they will automatically run 12's with them, but people like them, and we make money off of them. we also sell things like LED shift *****, generic cold air intakes, and other such "rice" products. wanna know why? they pay bills. plain and simple. people want them, will give us money for them, so why should we say, "sorry, that doesn't fall into the 'i'm cool cuz i have jdm stuff' category, so go look somewhere else." you people are all so quick to criticize performance shops. ever try running one and dealing with people like you? we do engine swaps, tranny swaps, custom cold air intakes, suspension/brake work, general repair, and more...so no, we don't just sell rice. besides, not everyone has the money or the endless desire to have everything JDM or Mugen. if everyone did have it, how "cool" would you be, anyway?
sorry to jack a bit of this thread, but i felt it was necessary.
The thing that bothers me about this the most is, it seem the guy is the only person selling this stuff, and only this stuff, oh wait he has a "torque box reinforcements" for a mustang, here's a list of what he/she sells..
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotor...ws=50
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotor...ws=50
the reason he is selling only TB spacers and torque box reinforcements and stuff like that is because it is a CNC machine shop not a performance shop. im not saying that they work or anything just giving a little more info on the seller. oh and you can get it much cheaper at thier website.... http://www.umiperformance.com its only $69.95
The throttle body spacer will increase the plenum volume on the intake manifold.
On a carb, the spacer will let the fuel stay cooler by seperating it from the heat transfer of the manifold. The spacer on a carb also gives more room for the fuel to atomize before the mixture hits the bottom of the plenum causing fuel to "wet" the manifold, when it seperates from the air. The spacer will not allow more air to enter the plenum unless a larger throttle body is also used.
On a carb, the spacer will let the fuel stay cooler by seperating it from the heat transfer of the manifold. The spacer on a carb also gives more room for the fuel to atomize before the mixture hits the bottom of the plenum causing fuel to "wet" the manifold, when it seperates from the air. The spacer will not allow more air to enter the plenum unless a larger throttle body is also used.
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so the generic intakes and those fart can exhaust they sell at the shops add hp?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya you know they do.. you have it and you said u car feel like its on boost
so the generic intakes and those fart can exhaust they sell at the shops add hp?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya you know they do.. you have it and you said u car feel like its on boost
Friend sent me this link. But, it would be a shaky purchase when looking for actual gains.
http://www.umiperformance.com/spacers/index.htm
http://www.umiperformance.com/spacers/index.htm
The concept behine this is a good one, if you have a 1 piston engine , and it's carborated..
Think about this, making a vortex for your air and fuel going into your throttle body> what happens after that? It Can't split the vortex into four seperate votexies..
I do how ever believe that someone some where has a dyno to prove it makes more hp, but that's just a sheet of paper and we have no idea what else was done to the car before the second run, or if it's even the same car..
Think about this, making a vortex for your air and fuel going into your throttle body> what happens after that? It Can't split the vortex into four seperate votexies..
I do how ever believe that someone some where has a dyno to prove it makes more hp, but that's just a sheet of paper and we have no idea what else was done to the car before the second run, or if it's even the same car..
i know the spacers make power , TQ and a tid bit better gas mileage on trucks but never tested them on smaller cars. the last shop i worked at we sold alot of spacers plus we had a dyno to prove that they did make some power. Not a whole lot but every bit counts
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Now when you say trucks, what kind of trucks are you talking about(motor, fuel systems) I do know that a spacer below a carburator helps atomize the fuel better, but how does it work on a direct port fuel injection system like Honda's system, and not like an above the manifold fuel injection system..
Now when you say trucks, what kind of trucks are you talking about(motor, fuel systems) I do know that a spacer below a carburator helps atomize the fuel better, but how does it work on a direct port fuel injection system like Honda's system, and not like an above the manifold fuel injection system..
check out this thread, maybe they do help....just a little bit.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=443841
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=443841
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hippie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Hey, sorry guys, thought this was a dead thread, been chasin parts for the Impala again.
To answer the last 3 posts on this thread................
I put it on a '91, the wrecked Accord I am rebuilding is a '92.
Let my account lapse on the site I was using for pics, so no pics for now. If you REALLY want to see them and I can remember which PC and what HDD I put them on I could e-mail them to you but even as JPG's the files are huge. LMK.
It was a Helix Power Tower that I had to modify because it DID NOT fit my car like the application guide said it would. Didn't even come close. I had a very minor improvement on the low end that I could actually verify by doing an uphill "roll on" before and after. And I DO mean minor, I get the impression that I gave up a little on the top end but that is wholly sunjective and, as Nick M put it, may be psychological. My advice ? Spend the $100 bucks on something else. As I stated earlier I got a lot more improvement by buying an extra bottom for my airbox and taking a 1" hole saw to it. I already had the hole saw so for $10 at the junkyard and about 10 minutes labor I made a real improvement. Bottom line is that it wasn't worth the $100 or all the extra crap I went through to make it work.
On the other hand the $109 I spent on the P-Spec shifter last fall would be worth every penny if I was any good with a stick...................
At least now I can use my bad knees and failing reflexes as an excuse. Guys, gettin' old sucks!!!!!! Of course so does the alternative
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LOL I guess that sums it up
To answer the last 3 posts on this thread................
I put it on a '91, the wrecked Accord I am rebuilding is a '92.
Let my account lapse on the site I was using for pics, so no pics for now. If you REALLY want to see them and I can remember which PC and what HDD I put them on I could e-mail them to you but even as JPG's the files are huge. LMK.
It was a Helix Power Tower that I had to modify because it DID NOT fit my car like the application guide said it would. Didn't even come close. I had a very minor improvement on the low end that I could actually verify by doing an uphill "roll on" before and after. And I DO mean minor, I get the impression that I gave up a little on the top end but that is wholly sunjective and, as Nick M put it, may be psychological. My advice ? Spend the $100 bucks on something else. As I stated earlier I got a lot more improvement by buying an extra bottom for my airbox and taking a 1" hole saw to it. I already had the hole saw so for $10 at the junkyard and about 10 minutes labor I made a real improvement. Bottom line is that it wasn't worth the $100 or all the extra crap I went through to make it work.
On the other hand the $109 I spent on the P-Spec shifter last fall would be worth every penny if I was any good with a stick...................
At least now I can use my bad knees and failing reflexes as an excuse. Guys, gettin' old sucks!!!!!! Of course so does the alternative
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LOL I guess that sums it up


