Looking for product demand: Wheel spacer and extended wheel studs
I'm interested to know whether there is a demand in wheel spacers and extended wheel studs to be sold as a kit for Civics, Integras, and any other cars you may think of.
I'd like to know if there are wheel clearance issues that some may have. For example: using Civic Si or Integra GSR rims on an older Civic that only ran 14" steelies. Or anything to that extent.
There will be a production run of these kits 'by the enthusiast, for the enthusiast.'
The spacers will be made from aluminum and steel initially. With time, other materials will be introduced. Spacers will also include a couple of features that no other spacers have. These features will not be made public until the production is made and sales have begun.
As far as pricing, I see it retailing between $50 and $70 for a kit of 16 studs and 4 spacers.
Who is interested? What does everyone think of price? I need to know what kind of demand I'm dealing with. Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
I'd like to know if there are wheel clearance issues that some may have. For example: using Civic Si or Integra GSR rims on an older Civic that only ran 14" steelies. Or anything to that extent.
There will be a production run of these kits 'by the enthusiast, for the enthusiast.'
The spacers will be made from aluminum and steel initially. With time, other materials will be introduced. Spacers will also include a couple of features that no other spacers have. These features will not be made public until the production is made and sales have begun.
As far as pricing, I see it retailing between $50 and $70 for a kit of 16 studs and 4 spacers.
Who is interested? What does everyone think of price? I need to know what kind of demand I'm dealing with. Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
i run 14x7 wheels and i had to use 5mm spacers in the rear. i bought a used h&r spacer kit from a fellow h-t member. the h&r kit comes with the spacers and extended wheel studs. i would have liked the kit better if it came with 1/2" longer wheel studs than the ones they sent (which work fine, but i'd personally just like longer ones).
so with that said, there is some demand out there, especially in the SCCA ITA class where 14x7 is the widest wheel you can run and almost all 4th gen civics/2nd gen crxs will need spacers in the rear to clear the dog bone mount on the trailing arm.
so with that said, there is some demand out there, especially in the SCCA ITA class where 14x7 is the widest wheel you can run and almost all 4th gen civics/2nd gen crxs will need spacers in the rear to clear the dog bone mount on the trailing arm.
What would be the advantage over H&R spacers? I've a set on my crx, and they work fine. Not really seeing a need for additional product, to tell you the truth, especially if they're aluminum/steel.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tommycrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What would be the advantage over H&R spacers? I've a set on my crx, and they work fine. Not really seeing a need for additional product, to tell you the truth, especially if they're aluminum/steel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the only advantage i see is price. the h&r kit is $50 for 2 spacers and 8 studs. this kit seems like it would be cheaper (in price).
the only advantage i see is price. the h&r kit is $50 for 2 spacers and 8 studs. this kit seems like it would be cheaper (in price).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by keithv »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i run 14x7 wheels and i had to use 5mm spacers in the rear. i bought a used h&r spacer kit from a fellow h-t member. the h&r kit comes with the spacers and extended wheel studs. i would have liked the kit better if it came with 1/2" longer wheel studs than the ones they sent (which work fine, but i'd personally just like longer ones).
so with that said, there is some demand out there, especially in the SCCA ITA class where 14x7 is the widest wheel you can run and almost all 4th gen civics/2nd gen crxs will need spacers in the rear to clear the dog bone mount on the trailing arm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you very much. Thats exactly what I was looking for. I will keep this in mind.
so with that said, there is some demand out there, especially in the SCCA ITA class where 14x7 is the widest wheel you can run and almost all 4th gen civics/2nd gen crxs will need spacers in the rear to clear the dog bone mount on the trailing arm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you very much. Thats exactly what I was looking for. I will keep this in mind.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rexman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would the studs be in the spacer? or are they just extended studs you put in the hubs? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Studs cant really be inside the spacer. The must be hammered in from behind the spindle and then preferably welded for added safety. The studs are about 10mm longer than stock thus far. Im currently searching for even longer studs.
Studs cant really be inside the spacer. The must be hammered in from behind the spindle and then preferably welded for added safety. The studs are about 10mm longer than stock thus far. Im currently searching for even longer studs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tommycrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What would be the advantage over H&R spacers? I've a set on my crx, and they work fine. Not really seeing a need for additional product, to tell you the truth, especially if they're aluminum/steel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The first advantage would be price. The second would be my spacers will have a couple of little features that I've not seen on any other spacer that might just be of interest to some. I believe my spacers will have an added benefit of a better fit and added safety. And the third advantage would that the spacers will be made 'by the enthusiast, for the enthusiast.' Meaning every order I get will not be just another order. I will take great care in producing my products because I would want others that I may be buying from to do the same for me. Plus, I am more accessable than H&R and Skunk2.
The first advantage would be price. The second would be my spacers will have a couple of little features that I've not seen on any other spacer that might just be of interest to some. I believe my spacers will have an added benefit of a better fit and added safety. And the third advantage would that the spacers will be made 'by the enthusiast, for the enthusiast.' Meaning every order I get will not be just another order. I will take great care in producing my products because I would want others that I may be buying from to do the same for me. Plus, I am more accessable than H&R and Skunk2.
what r u gonna do about lugs? most likely ull need open ended lugs like these daiyama lug group buy
-spenc
-spenc
Open ended lugs are not necessary since the length of the studs that will be left will be the same as stock since the spacer will be the same thickness of the longer stud minus the stock stud. But if it is of concern, I guess I could include lugs for whatever cost is.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wont be beat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Open ended lugs are not necessary since the length of the studs that will be left will be the same as stock since the spacer will be the same thickness of the longer stud minus the stock stud. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i can attest to this as the H&R studs i got with my kit allowed me to use my gorilla lug nuts.
i can attest to this as the H&R studs i got with my kit allowed me to use my gorilla lug nuts.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wont be beat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im currently searching for even longer studs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the reply by dave w hs some REALLY good info:
http://forums.improvedtouring.....html
the reply by dave w hs some REALLY good info:
http://forums.improvedtouring.....html
Please, dear lord, produce this kit. I'm in if it happens SOON. As in, within a week, TOPS.
I swapped to DA knuckles + hubs on the front and the stock '88-'89 wheels will not fit without using a 5mm spacer. Using that spacer with the stock studs, there just isn't enough thread for the lugnuts to safely grip it. I actually had an incident last night where the left front wheel lugnuts all loosened off and the wheel almost fell off. When I stopped one of the lugs was loose to the point of being removable by hand.
I'm in the market for longer studs. Having matched spacers would be nice so I'd be willing to pay for this kit rather than going to a parts store and matching up some studs that would work and are longer. But I don't know if I can wait, seeing as I drove almost 1k km's weekly.
I swapped to DA knuckles + hubs on the front and the stock '88-'89 wheels will not fit without using a 5mm spacer. Using that spacer with the stock studs, there just isn't enough thread for the lugnuts to safely grip it. I actually had an incident last night where the left front wheel lugnuts all loosened off and the wheel almost fell off. When I stopped one of the lugs was loose to the point of being removable by hand.
I'm in the market for longer studs. Having matched spacers would be nice so I'd be willing to pay for this kit rather than going to a parts store and matching up some studs that would work and are longer. But I don't know if I can wait, seeing as I drove almost 1k km's weekly.
Why would you use stock studs with spacers? I don't understand that at all. How many
did you have?
Good luck on the project - I wasn't bashing the idea, was solely curious about what differences there would be from what's already out there.
did you have?Good luck on the project - I wasn't bashing the idea, was solely curious about what differences there would be from what's already out there.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tommycrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why would you use stock studs with spacers? I don't understand that at all. How many
did you have?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Quite a few.
did you have?</TD></TR></TABLE>Quite a few.
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