Sort of a weird question...

Looking into buying a Sparco wheel for my track car, and was wondering if the quick release hub would provide any level of theft deterrent?

Can you "drive" the car without the wheel, like with a pair of vice-grips, or even by grabbing the hub? Does anyone have a good pic of the hub with the wheel removed?

Thanks

 

If a pro wants the car he/she will get it. Period.

 

I agree with the above post - if they really really want it, they'll find some way to get it.

HOWEVER, most theft deterrant measures work with the "let's find an easier target" mentality in mind. Most theives don't want to jump through flaming hoops to jack cars - they might get burnt. They'd rather do a higher volume of low risk jobs, I'd think.

 

I have this on mine now



If you having a steering shaft ( which everyone does ) it can be used with pliers however this will make it very very difficult to do so

I bought mine from efzero for only 130 and it's got no play at all.

 

It would not deterr someone from towing your vehicle with a flatbed.
(There is nothing you can do to prevent this)

I joined a towing forum to get some help on preventing theft via towing. The unanimous conclusion was, nothing can prevent a car from being towed. Even if you do the following you are not safe:

lock the wheel to the side, leave it in 1st, park agains 1 or 2 curbs.

They did say not to ever park with your bumper hanging over a curb or parking stopper. When the ar is jacked up, it will damage the bumper.

 

Well, I'm not suggesting that removing the wheel will stop someone from towing the car. Nor am I suggesting that it would be the only protection on the vehicle. Just trying to rationalize the added expense of the quick release with an additional benefit. I guess it would have the same level of derrent as the Club.

 

What about chaining the frame to a lightpole with a freon proof lock and an ABUS Magnum or higher chain?

 

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Looking into buying a Sparco wheel for my track car, and was wondering if the quick release hub would provide any level of theft deterrent
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DUH! Of course it would work as a theft deterrent! If you were looking to steal a car would you pick one with a steering wheel or one without.

Yes you could still steal it with a big *** wrench but it's better then nothing.

 

still easy, they can use YOUR OWN CAR's lugwrench to jam thru the steering hub to steer with.

 

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http://www.clubbuster.com/clubbuster.htm

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""Bust-off" steering wheel and brake locks in 60 Seconds! "

At least it's an additional 60 seconds. Not bad for $39.99. That plus other clubs (shifter adn pedals), cut off switches, alarm, and whatever other surprises you can throw at them should delay someone who is not towing. Better than having the keys sitting in the ignition.

 

its a definite deterrent!

especially for the small time theives- like one guy sorta said, the more of a pain in the *** you make it, the longer it takes, the less likely you'll get your car stolen.

towing is what the real pros do- so i hear, but you can make that more difficult too.
parallel park? makes it harder..

if pro theives have you in their target there's not a whole lot you can do, but its always good to make it more difficult.

-s

 

Our EF was stolen with a quick release hub, and Sparco wheel removed.

Car was recovered and crescent wrench teeth marks were evident.

The people who stole the car, left all suspension and engine related parts. They stole the wheels and interior. Bunch of retards, but because it was a progressing race car the interior and 15" GSR alloys were useless anyways

 

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Car was recovered and crescent wrench teeth marks were evident.

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Well, that's still pretty darned disturbing how far they would go to seal your stuff.

 

not to sound condescending, but, how many professionals are going to steal a civic/integra by towing it? Repossession, sure... but stealing it by towing?

There's more money in other cars.

 

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There's more money in other cars.

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Because of the need/demand for parts (including body parts). I wish I had a link, but probably about 1 year ago there was a report that the Integra had highest rate of cars stolen (percentage-wise that is). IOW, for every 1,000 cars in the street the Integra had the highest number stolen. The GSR/ITR engine fits on almost every civic from 1990 to 2001 doesn't it?

I won't be surprised if this thread gets locked soon since it has veered way off from the original Q or anything to do with road race/autox.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JustChou &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with the above post - if they really really want it, they'll find some way to get it.

HOWEVER, most theft deterrant measures work with the "let's find an easier target" mentality in mind. Most theives don't want to jump through flaming hoops to jack cars - they might get burnt. They'd rather do a higher volume of low risk jobs, I'd think.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Browse the ITR archives and your opinion will change. Thieves WILL jump through flaming hoops for GS-R's and ITR's because the parts are so hot. Hell, you could turn a decent profit on an ITR just from the frigging floor mats. Someone on another site had their R stolen after NINE attempts.

I'm tempted to only recommend basic security, because nothing is going to deter these guys

 

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While this is certainly true, I think the vast majority of Honda/Acura thefts are hot-wired and driven away. Late model Hondas and Acuras are quite easy to take using this method.

Knowing this, thieves have no need to cruise around with tow trucks or flatbeds, nor do they have to incur the additional risk of stealing cars with such a conspicuous tactic. They simply see a Honda/Acura they find desirable, break in, start it, and drive away. That's what happened to my GS-R a few weeks ago.

Therefore, if thieves looking for Hondas/Acuras are doing so without a tow truck "in tow", so to speak (because they know they don't need it), what would do owners the most good, in my humble opinion, is a deterrent that would make starting or driving the car difficult, since that is the way most thieves count on removing it. Based on my assertions above, if they can't start it quickly and and drive it, then 8 out of 10 times they won't take it. Yeah, maybe you'll have to replace the ignition or a door lock, but the car will still be there.

I'm sure if they had not been able to start my GS-R at Giants stadium, I would not have lost it.

What is needed, I think are easy-to-install, effective, affordable measures that would forestall starting or driving the vehicle. I say affordable and easy-to-install because, let's face it, we're often talking about cars here that we work on ourselves, that are older and not worth a great deal of money; perhaps worth less than the sum of their parts! Of course, they are worth much more than that to us!!

I've heard people suggest things ranging from hidden kill switches to after-market anti-theft systems utilizing transponder keys. It's too late for me, but you guys that want to hold onto your cars ought to help each other out! The epidemic of late model Honda/Acura thefts will only worsen as the popularity of these cars surges. Right now there is no end in sight!

 

Thanks for the replies. I wasn't trying to start a thread about theft prevention, but was trying to get a feel for what is left behind when you remove the wheel. Any other pics of their cars with the wheel removed?

Thanks.

 

go to zap electronics at the mall they have a child tracking wrist watch. if you want to track the kid you go online put in your password then you get a ariel picture of where they are by gps. now wouldent it be fun just to have one in your car and you show up at there house a hour later with the cops and say can i have my car back please?

 

http://www.teentrack.com/

GPS tracking system for your car.

On the quick release hub, just make sure that you get it locked in place each time you put it in. I saw a BMW get trashed at Mid-Ohio because his quick release hub was not connected all the way. He went off entering Thunder Valley...